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Forum topic by saumish posted 05-14-2009 01:26 AM 2512 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-14-2009 01:26 AM

I just bought a woodmaster planer and I need a whole shop dust collector for a 24×32 shop, any sugestions?
I also have tablesaw, bandsaw,jointer, miter saw routertable.

-- Jim Ohio

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#2 posted 05-14-2009 01:40 AM

Hey Jim
There are tons of choices out there. I like my dust collectors outside so they don’t take up floor space and the noise is out side. About 5 years ago I bought a harbor freight dust collector as a temporary measure . But found it worked fine. So I bought 2 more and them for separate use one for my table saw and one for my jointer .Even with 3 they cost less($150ea) than a mid range dust collector . I’m kind of a tool snob so I was very surprised a harbor freight tool worked so well. If you would like something higher end I’ve read good reveiws on Oneida and Pennstate.

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#3 posted 05-14-2009 01:42 AM

I second Oneida.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#4 posted 05-14-2009 04:17 AM

I have used a Harbor Freight dust collector for the past 4 years with good results. I had it hooked to 2 machines (with blast gates on both), a Rigid table saw and a Hitachi chop saw. The unit I used cost $250.00 with free shipping to my door via UPS.

2hp Dust Collector

2hp Harbor Freight Dust Collector

As Jim said he does above I also like to install my DC unit outside of my shop due to noise. The unit I am installing in my new shop will run into a home built Thien separator lid then to an exterior duct and vent into outside air behind my shop.

It is worth noting that the Dust Collector unit for my new shop was purchased used from a fellow woodworker on Craigslist for $85.00. I will add a home built Thien separator lid, some ducting, a few blast gates and build a small enclosure for it behind my shop. Total cost including the unit will likely run about $250.00 and I plan to duct it to 4 different machines.

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#5 posted 05-14-2009 04:30 AM

I use a 3hp delta I got used several years ago in a 24×24 currently, used it in my old 24×36 shop. Works for most part depending on bends and lengths. Saw somewhere there is a booster for dust collection, need to get one for my table saw, but routers, jointers and planers have enough fan velocity to push dust into line, where as the table saw it actually has to pull it out and being the furthest from the corner.

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#6 posted 05-14-2009 04:55 AM

get a reputable cyclone. That woodmaster will create alot of chips. Oneida make a good one or better yet get a clearvue.

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#7 posted 05-14-2009 05:04 AM

I don’t know that Clearvue is better, I’d like to see a head to head test.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#8 posted 05-14-2009 05:20 AM

what’s the budget? Will you have 220V dedicated for the DC? do you wish to have a stationary collector and duct the airflow? or would you rather have a mobile machine that will be connected to each machine you’re using at that time?

If you have 220V, and am looking for a stationary solution – a cyclone is the best performer. Oneida are good, clear-vue also seems to be getting good reviews. add to the cost of the cyclone itself the cost for plumbing all the air ducts + gates + remote controls etc.

if you’re looking for a mobile unit – I’d recommend looking at the 1100CFM and up units – HF have a surprisingly good unit, while Jet, and Powermatic also have superb machines.

JDS also have a couple of small/mobile cyclones which seems to be performing rather well, and take less space than the conventional cyclones (they are also floor standing on castors as opposed to ceiling mounted.

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#9 posted 05-14-2009 05:46 AM

Here’s a quick comparison I did.

The information came from here:


That doesn’t show that Clearvue is better, at least not in CFM.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#10 posted 05-15-2009 02:29 AM

Back when I bought my Clearvue (~2 yrs ago) the research indicated that the main difference was in the stock filters supplied / purchased with Oneida v. Clearvue. The Wynn Environmental filters recommended for the Clearvue have (had) better performance than the Oneida recommended filters. If it could be proven to me that this is true beyond a shadow of a doubt (I do not have a laboratory in my garage to disprove the claim) then I would say buy the Wynn filters for the Oneida.

Another difference, though again beyond my faculties to prove, is the angle of approach on the inlet to the cyclone. The Clearvue has an angled inlet vs. the straight inlet on the Oneida. The angle is relative to the ground (horizon), as they both enter tangentially to the cyclone. Apparently this adds to the separation efficiency of the cyclone … I went for it. I was convinced that this was a plus for the Oneida, but who am I to say?

After all is said and done I believe they are both great cyclones. I certainly wouldn’t have made a bad decision had I gone with the Oneida.

My 2 cents.

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#11 posted 05-15-2009 02:44 AM

Jim, do a little surfing and researching. You’ll find the one you need.

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#12 posted 05-16-2009 07:22 PM

In looking and comparing the results of the ASHRAE tests for both the Wynn Filters and the Oneida filters, there seems to be a slight difference in the less then 0.62 micron range after the 5th loading. But the test results I found for Oneida is from 2003 and the Wynn results appears more current, things could have changed by now.

I’m in the process for upgrading my Oneida Cyclone from the internal cartridge filter to the external filter, 3 times the filter surface area. I’m going to take this research further and if the Wynn filter is indeed better and I can get a 18”x39” one that fits I may just opt for a Wynn.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#13 posted 05-17-2009 01:57 AM

Thanks for the info, I want to run the duct along the ceiling but I want to have it be strong enough to use my planer and stay under 500.00

-- Jim Ohio

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#14 posted 05-17-2009 02:20 AM

Scratch the Clearvue and any larger Oneida if your budget is $500.

-- Just 'cause a cat has kittens in the oven, it don't make 'em biscuits.

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#15 posted 05-17-2009 02:46 AM

Running up and along the ceiling says to me long run and long runs equate to high static pressure. I’d figure out your run(s) length and elbows and such i.e. do a design so you can estimate static pressure then use that to determine the DC that can do the job. You need a certain airstream speed and CFM at that static pressure to move the material and not have it fall out of the airflow and line the pipes.

Putting a dollar limit on it is understandable but purchasing solely on that without designing you could end up with one that can’t do the job you want it to. I’m on my third DC, well the first two were DC’s and now I have a Oneida Cyclone because the DC’s couldn’t do what I wanted them to do. I.E. I learned the hard way. $$

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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