Grizzly and Laguna the same tool ??

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Forum topic by Don K. posted 05-11-2009 04:56 PM 9594 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Don K.

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05-11-2009 04:56 PM

This morning a finally pulled the trigger and ordered my new Grizzly G0691 table saw. As always, I was doing research and reviews up until the last second. When I came across this question last night on another forum.

It is rather long, but in a nut shell, he is thinking between a new Grizzly G0690 and a Laguna 10” cabinet saw. He made the statement that the saw looked identical except for a few small things, but that he was going with the Laguna because it just looked better.

A guy claiming to be a Grizzly rep (Over 400 post on that forum, no one called him out as a fake) and said that the two saw were identical, made in the same factory, with the same parts. Difference was color, a few shiny bells and whistles on the Laguna, Grizzlys way better c/s, and a price at about half of the Laguna’s.

The guy then said he had been trying to get Laguna to send him a free DVD for over a month and had not gotten one yet. But just because of a rep answering him on a forum, he decided to go with the Grizzly.

Has anyone heard of this before, that Grizzly and Laguna cabinet saws were the same saw, made in the same factory ? I know MANY tools are made in the same factory and sold under different names, but if this one is true…wow, what a difference in price for the same tool just under a different name.

NOT knocking Laguna tools, just asking if anyone else has ever heard this before.

-- Don S.E. OK

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#1 posted 05-11-2009 05:09 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised… this is the market today – x number of factories – y number of brand names but x < y. ridgid, steel city, craftsman too? share factories. laguna and grizzley too? looks like it. between those 2 – I’d go with the grizzley, better customer service (Fact), and I personally like the colors more. it’s a nice saw!

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#2 posted 05-11-2009 05:12 PM

Hey Don
Are you sure you ordered the grizzly? Just kidding, I would be very surprised if the saws are even made in the same factory. Probably some one at laguna sent a photo to a factory of a grizzly and said make it look like this.
Well the saws grizzly what about the rest of your tools? Steel City? congrats. Jim

-- wood crafting & woodworking classes

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#3 posted 05-11-2009 05:13 PM

I agree PurpLev, I was just waiting for a customers check to come in last week before ordering my new upgrades, but did research up until the last min. You will always find a few negative reviews on ANY tool, but across the board, the Grizzly got high ratings !!!

-- Don S.E. OK

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#4 posted 05-11-2009 05:15 PM

Hey Don,

You’ll love your Grizzly. I have the 5 hp model with the 12” blade and haven’t had a single problem. As a matter of fact, all my major power tools came from Grizzly. They do offer great customer service.


-- Eggers Woodcraft

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#5 posted 05-11-2009 07:37 PM

Thanks Kent, and welcome to Lumberjocks.

Jim, Nope, all Grizzly lol….upgraded my old saw to the Grizzly G0691

Upgraded my Planer to the the Grizzly G0453 with a blade cutter head, and then ordered the spiral cutter head, the G0453Z is the same machine with a spiral cutter head, but no free shipping, the G0453 has free shipping, so does the cutter head, save almost $200 this way, and I get a back up cutter head.

Also ordered the Grizzly G0513X217 band-saw with free shipping. It was only $90 more than the G0513 17 Band saw(no fre shipping) but with this one, I get cast iron trunnion and cast iron wheels.

Now which one of you nice fellow LumberJocks are going to let me stay in your shop for awhile after the wife sees the bill ???

-- Don S.E. OK

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#6 posted 05-11-2009 07:50 PM

SO know has to read the whole long topic to see what the Grizzly rep said, I copy and posted it here…

firewood259 said:

The little things, the quick release riving knife for one, I have slept since I made this post, but it appears the table top is more polished, they add knurled knobs where needed and usable, the quick release motor guard, etc. also they sell one with dovetailed ways which is either is not offered by Grizz or not stated in their info, and if it is not stated it is not there.

I am certainly no expert, but after watching the Laguna videos online then looking at the Grizz G0690, it seemed the Grizz lacks fit and finish.
BTW, I am only comparing it to the G0690, apples to apples, I know Grizz has higher priced machines, etc.


”Firewood – thank you for the insight. The apples to apples comparison is correct and to that extent I would like to say that the Grizzly G0690 has the following:

1) Quick release riving knife.
2) Quick release motor guard.
3) Quick release splitter assembly.
4) Easy glide fence system.
5) Knurled knobs for adjusting fence.
6) Nylon runners inside fence head assembly.
7) T-Square type fence system.
8) Set screw holding table insert down, with adjustable screws inside.
9) 3 H.P. Leeson motor.
10) A precision hardened and ground polished cast iron top that is, AT THE VERY LEAST, equal to the saw you are comparing it to.

What the Grizzly does not have is excessive hype and a high price tag. The lower Grizzly price comes from the fact that we have a much larger buying (and selling) power and sell many times more saws than the competitor. We try to pass the savings onto the consumer and also try to provide exemplary service. Oh, by the way, it is the same saw coming from the same factory, made of the same components. However, we do have several engineers that check out these saws at the factory before they are shipped to our warehouses in the USA.

Thank you bringing this subject up as it appears that we need to update some of this missing information on our web site. ”

-- Don S.E. OK

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#7 posted 05-11-2009 08:22 PM

bring all the machinery, and I have a spare bedroom for ya’ ;o)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#8 posted 05-11-2009 09:10 PM

LOl, I may have to. Told the wife weeks ago I was upgrading since we decided to do the stand alone furniture business. But “HER” idea and “MY” idea of spending money to upgrade may be two diffeent price tags.

-- Don S.E. OK

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#9 posted 05-12-2009 01:08 AM

Sounds like you are getting some nice equipment for your shop. I like Grizzly myself and the customer service is excellent.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

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#10 posted 05-12-2009 01:55 AM

Don – The odds are good that the Grizzly “rep” is actually owner Shiraz Balolia. He frequents a few websites, and goes by the name of “Papa Griz” where real names aren’t required. He’s very much a hands-on guy, and is straight shooter. He’s an excellent woodworker too…any of the comleted guitars you see in the catalogs and website are his handiwork.

The Leeson motor, lower price, and Grizzly service would be enough incentive for me to pick it over the Laguna.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#11 posted 05-12-2009 03:42 AM

Every time I hear of a Grizzly owner that has a problem with their tool, the description of their problem is followed QUICKLY with a description of excellent customer service and what Grizzly did to correct the problem and the owners’ inconveniences.

There is a Grizzly store about 2 hours away from me and when I walk into it, I feel like a kid again.

-- Brian, Lebanon PA, If you aren’t having fun doing it, find something else to do.

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#12 posted 05-12-2009 04:08 AM

Thanks guys, I feel like a little kid before Christmas,
Scott, the guy did say his name was PapaGriz or PapaGrizzly, so I guess it was the owner then. I guess if the owner says it is made in the same plant and with the same parts as a Laguna….I guess it is !!!

-- Don S.E. OK

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