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Bob Babcock

1808 posts in 980 days


836 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: epoxy paddle varnish

Hello All,

I’m building my brother a paddle and was wondering about the epoxy finish I’m using. This is my 1st time using epoxy and I could use some tips.

I’ve read the West Systems manual but was wondering if we have any experts. I’ve used the 206 slow hardener for the laminations and I’m planning on using the 207 hardener for the finish. Any thoughts or tips on application for the best finish? Also what varnish would you recommend? This paddle if it performs well will see a lot of Hawaiian sun.

Thanks,

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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Hawgnutz

522 posts in 970 days


836 days ago

Bob, I am looking forward to any relies you get. I would like to learn more about epoxy finish, too!

God Bless,
Hawg

-- Saving barnwood from the scrapyards

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scottb

3402 posts in 1221 days


836 days ago

There was an article in FWW within the past year – for finishing an outdoor chair. I think they brushed on coats of epoxy and spar varnish. If I recall correctly the epoxy was a little thin and really sank down into the wood providing great protection.

I’ll see if I can find that issue – can’t have gone far.

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

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scottb

3402 posts in 1221 days


836 days ago

found it – thanks to the free month being offered at FWW! http://lumberjocks.com/topics/801 (YAY!)

http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/FWNPDF/011179042.pdf

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

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Bob Babcock

1808 posts in 980 days


836 days ago

Thanks Scott. I think I’ll look for that epifanes varnish. I’ll still be using the west systems epoxy though. I want a little more durable coat than the epoxy sealer gives. One of the issues I have though is getting a good even coat and getting it to cure without runs. On such an odd shaped piece its tough to get no drip spots with the thick epoxy. I was thinking of switching to the fast hardener and just continuosly turning it until it cures.

FWW is such a great resource.

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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Bob #2

3037 posts in 915 days


835 days ago

HI Bob:
Another thing you will like with that varnish is that the dtuff has a high filler component of UV protectors.
Try serching for jamestowndistributors.com as they handle both products.

Cheers Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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Bob Babcock

1808 posts in 980 days


835 days ago

The epifanes has a pretty hefty UV inhibitor. Damn all this stuffs expensive. I dropped $100 in epoxy, hardeners, and fillers. I thought my wife was going to shoot me. I should be able to get about 3 paddles from that amount.

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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furnitologist

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834 days ago

Hi Bob:

Every spring, I usually make a tiller or 2 and always coat with Resin and 207 hardener. I scuff it up and put 3 coats of varnish for further UV protection.

Neil

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Bob Babcock

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834 days ago

Sounds like that’s the plan. I’ve finished the 1st paddle and started the second today. I think I’ll wait until I have both ready before I do the finishing. Thanks all.

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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Hawgnutz

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809 days ago

Thanks, Bob. Got a real good price on the same thing that woodcraft sells.

Sounds like you should wait till you get all your finishing lined up. It does not keep well, or stay liquid very long. And, your brushes will be trash after yoiu use them. Looks likek I will get some cheap chip brushes from harbor freight….LOL

God Bless,
Hawg

-- Saving barnwood from the scrapyards

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Bob #2

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808 days ago

Bob , one thing that may help you is a hair dryer.
I use one to bring up bubbles to the surface of thick coating where they usually pop leaving a smooth surface.
I am using the west system right now for a timber repair and it is real pricey.
If I were using a lot of it I would got back to Devcon or the Makim group with K-poxy (Waltham MA)

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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Woodminer

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808 days ago

Be sure to put pix up with details of what did or did not work!!

-- Dean, Missouri

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Bob Babcock

1808 posts in 980 days


808 days ago

Thanks Bob….If things go like I think they may I’ll be using a lot more epoxy and the west systems is pricey and Waltham isn’t very far from me.

Woodminer…you can see the finished pics here. http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/Treefarmer/blog/1764 They came out nice for the most part. Still had some issues here and there though.

I’m starting another paddle for the Philanthropy Challenge but this won’t be an epoxy finish. I’ll probably just use a satin poly since its not going to be for the water but the wall.

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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