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Forum topic by Rivercitykenb posted 02-19-2015 09:31 PM 1078 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Rivercitykenb

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02-19-2015 09:31 PM

SO, I am looking at 2 jointers. One is the grizzly g0654. the other is a steel city, I am unsure of the model, but is around the same size, with granit top and accu…. something…. cutter head that is at my local woodcraft on sale for 429. apparently is has a granite table. i know a lot of people seem to not like the granite table but I love the one on my table saw. any opinions? how is the grizzly? are the steel city ones any good? the woodcraft rep i spoke to on the phone told me this model is disconitnued if that helps anyone zero in on which model it could be.

edit: i think the steel city is model 40630 ( just googled all the info he gave me on it and thats what came up)


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DrDirt

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#1 posted 02-19-2015 09:42 PM

Understand cost can always be an issue, but I got a 6 inch delta 10 years ago, runs good, but have wished i had an 8 inch jointer within a couple months of having the 6.

There are work arounds, and planer sleds etc…. but that is just compensating for something that would have been better.

I would look for a used 8 inch.

to your question, there just really isn’t much difference between jointers. They are pretty simple machines.

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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a1Jim

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#2 posted 02-19-2015 10:39 PM

I agree with DrDirt ,Many folks start with 4” jointers then find it’s too small and then go up to 6” and then 8” or even wider.Not only can you face joint wider boards with wider jointers but it’s easier to joint long board because most jointer beds get long as the jointer gets wider. If your budget will allow start with the widest jointer you can afford and for good measure a jointer with spiral cutters instead on blades.I’ve never owned a granite top tool because I never liked the idea of possible cracking the surface when dropping something on it or when you move it,both of these type of damages I’ve read about online that has happen to granite top tool owners . As to the company you want your purchase your jointer from depends on your budget and the reputation of the company,I have had good experiances with Grizzly tools and bad experiences with Laguna tools. Good luck on whatever you select.

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pintodeluxe

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#3 posted 02-19-2015 10:46 PM

The steel city sounds good. A granite top should work well on a jointer. No need for magnetic feather boards etc.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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Rivercitykenb

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#4 posted 02-20-2015 05:27 AM

this is the jointer that my local woodcraft has in stock. the model is no longer in production, but they have one, new, in a box.

http://m.homedepot.com/p/Steel-City-6-in-Cast-Iron-Jointer-40540/204766618/

the other is an accu-shop 6” jointer. After seeing it, i was not to ready to jump in on it. The infeed and outfeed tables are only 1” thick granite with no support on the 18” on each side that are sticking out. I am afraid even a slight mistake would crack the granite table off.

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jimball

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#5 posted 02-20-2015 04:38 PM

The Grizzly spiral head jointers with parallelogram tables are great. I have had a G0604ZX 6” model since 2009 and love it – never a bit of trouble with it.

-- Of all the things I make in my shop, sawdust and wood chips are the most common.

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Minorhero

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#6 posted 02-20-2015 04:58 PM

They are both low end jointers. Go with the cheaper of the two. Other jointers that cost more would be substantially better. A spiral cutting head and/or 8” instead of 6” etc. But if money matters then the steel city is going to be the winner because it is cheaper and neither has an advantage in features.

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Rivercitykenb

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#7 posted 02-20-2015 05:13 PM

After visiting woodcraft, I have some reservations after looking at them. I am looking at grizzly now, the G0452P look pretty decent and in my price range. Anyone know if there are any coupon codes out there right now? I know they have free shipping on bandsaws, but anything out there on jointers? also, my local woodcraft seems very disinterested in giving advice or helping anyone. Is this typical for them or did I run into an anomaly? Almost felt like I was bothering them coming in asking to look at what jointers they sell, anything not in stock is 30+days to order they said. Seems crazy to me. Maybe they are not interested in people new to woodworking that would be future customers… I was actually willing to pay the higher price there if I could lean on them for advice.

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TheFridge

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#8 posted 02-20-2015 05:26 PM

I got a 6” and started saving for an 8” after using the 6 for a short while.

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ravensrock

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#9 posted 02-20-2015 05:53 PM

I have had the Grizzly G0654 for a year or so now. It’s my first jointer so I don’t have much to compare it to but it has been fine for me so far as a weekend woodworker. Sure an 8” would be nice but this one has met my needs for now. I drove to the showroom in Muncy PA to pick it up. Cool place to visit if you’ve never been before.

-- Dave, York, PA, WildSide Woodworking

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OhioMike

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#10 posted 02-20-2015 06:09 PM

I own the G0452P. After some small problems found during assembly that Grizzly tech support helped with, it’s been a fine jointer. I’d love to have an 8” jointer (or a 10” or a 12”, etc….) but it’s not an option right now.

I worry about jointers like the Steel City that might trap me into buying replacement cutters from only one source. I’m not saying the HSS square cutters aren’t available elsewhere – I’m saying I don’t know.

I can buy knives for my Grizzly almost anywhere – even on Amazon.

Mike

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blasley

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#11 posted 02-20-2015 06:30 PM

I’ve had a Grizzly 6” jointer for years had it has served well, though I’m like the others in wishing I had saved a little longer and bought an 8”. Some day…..

I can’t speak for the Woodcraft store in your area, but the guys at the Tulsa store are always very helpful.

Good luck,
Bob

-- Bob in Okieland

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Mike

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#12 posted 02-20-2015 06:44 PM

You may wish to consider a spiral/segmented cutter head. The cutting quality, especially on figured wood, is better and avoiding the cost and hassle of sharpening straight blades is nice.

Mike

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Woodbum

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#13 posted 02-20-2015 07:48 PM

+1 JimBall, I have the same machine. I wanted the 8” Griz model, but the bed was too long for my limited size shop, so I settled for the 6”. I picked it up at the Springfield MO showroom. If you are in the area, budget 1+ hrs and go through the showroom. It is really cool. So far…the 6” Griz has done all that I have wanted to do, but the future remains to be seen. I really like the spiral cutter head. It really makes for a quiet operation, and smooth finishes.

-- "Now I'm just another old guy wearing funny clothes"

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RandyinFlorida

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#14 posted 02-22-2015 05:58 PM

Ken

I found the service at the Washington state store lacking also. As to your question +1 Grizzly

-- Randy in Crestview Florida, Wood Rocks!

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jimball

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#15 posted 02-22-2015 07:17 PM



+1 JimBall, I have the same machine. I wanted the 8” Griz model, but the bed was too long for my limited size shop, so I settled for the 6”. I picked it up at the Springfield MO showroom. If you are in the area, budget 1+ hrs and go through the showroom. It is really cool. So far…the 6” Griz has done all that I have wanted to do, but the future remains to be seen. I really like the spiral cutter head. It really makes for a quiet operation, and smooth finishes.

- Woodbum

:D I’m 90 miles from the Springfield, Mo showroom and have been there many times. I picked up all of my large Grizzly tools directly from the warehouse there. I’ve had my jointer since 2009 and am thinking it’s about time to sit down and rotate the carbide inserts in the cutter heads to a fresh edge. :D

-- Of all the things I make in my shop, sawdust and wood chips are the most common.

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