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Forum topic by Wyo7200 posted 02-19-2015 05:27 PM 659 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-19-2015 05:27 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question dust collector install

I came into a W1666 model dust collector on craigslist for a very good price. Guy moved into a new place and didnt have 220 available. My initial intention was to mount it above the garage in the attic so it would be out of the way. Then I had second thoughts that I should mount it where I can see it in case something bad happens while I’m using it. Plus, Id be saving a lot in duct work mounting in the garage. Did a little search on google and saw some folks have mounted their DC to the wall by attaching some plywood across the studs and bolting the unit to the wood.

I’d like a solid mount because the W1666 is a heavy beast! I will attach the plywood (2 pieces of 1/2 glued together to make 1”) to the studs using 6 lag screws. I plan to use some rubber washers between the units mounting bolts and the wall to minimize any vibration transferring into the house. My question is do I countersink a locknut into the 1” plywood board and use bolts, or go straight through the drywall with lag screws? Any advice or better methods I should look into?

Thanks for your time-

Jeff


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#1 posted 02-19-2015 05:52 PM

My cyclone hangs on the wall, it weighs 285# (accordng to the manufacturer). It’s held there with 4 3/8” lag screws that are 4” long. It’s been there 5 years without a problem, adn it was on the wall of my last shop (we moved) for 3 years with the same lags. But this is on a steel hanger, so ~3 3/8” of the lag is into the stud, allowing for 1/2” rock and the steel plate.

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#2 posted 02-19-2015 07:05 PM



My cyclone hangs on the wall, it weighs 285# (accordng to the manufacturer). It s held there with 4 3/8” lag screws that are 4” long. It s been there 5 years without a problem, adn it was on the wall of my last shop (we moved) for 3 years with the same lags. But this is on a steel hanger, so ~3 3/8” of the lag is into the stud, allowing for 1/2” rock and the steel plate.

- Fred Hargis

Thanks Fred. Love your signature quote.

I thought about using two u-channels spanning across three studs and then bolting the board with the collector to the U channels as one idea to disperse some of the weight and give me some space in the back to use lock nuts. I’m certain mine isnt as nearly as heavy as yours so I think the wood panel should hold it up.

Thanks again!

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#3 posted 02-19-2015 07:07 PM

I heard that just like compressors when you raise something up high it sounds much noisier.However I wish you well Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#4 posted 02-20-2015 09:11 PM


I heard that just like compressors when you raise something up high it sounds much noisier.However I wish you well Alistair

- SCOTSMAN

Thanks Scotsman-

There are some certain levels of sound that I can tolerate more than getting my butt chewed from my wife about the amount of sawdust building up around the garage. :)
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So, I got to the point of drilling the pilot holes for the lag bolts and had an idea of recessing the bolts (carriage bolts- thanks Fred!) behind the mount, like in the picture. (please disregard the use of lag bolts to demonstrate what I’m thinking) Anyone have any advice/ experience about doing it this way?

My studs are too far apart to mount the unit directly. I’m thinking four lag bolts on each side should hold it.

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#5 posted 02-20-2015 09:24 PM

With that arrangement, why don’t you just use carriage bolts for the blower? I’m not sure I’ve ever seen nuts for lag bolts (not to say they don’t exist). I’m guessing the plywood gets bolted to the studs (with lag bolts)? (Kicking myself for not understanding your approach.) would also suggest getting some of these kinds of carriage bolt washers spread the load against the plywood as well as keep them from spinning. A good hardware store should have them.

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#6 posted 02-20-2015 09:30 PM

Whoops- yeah sorry, I planned on using plain bolts where those lag bolts are in the picture and forgot to mention they are there for looks only. I grabbed the first bag closest to me when I had the idea. I edited the post and added carriage bolts- Thanks, I like that idea.

The plywood will get bolted to the studs with 4 1/2” lag bolts.

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#7 posted 02-21-2015 03:00 AM

I used 2×6 triangle frame, 1/2” ply gusset on both sides. Bolted through the studs with 3/8” bolts. Overkill for the HF unit, but might give you an idea or two. With a Thein style separator on the floor, i empty the dust bag about once a year—right after i forget to check the separator. Next step will be to just vent it straight out through the wall—we live in a the middle of a corn field, so there are pretty much no covenants!!

earl

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#8 posted 02-21-2015 03:20 AM

What you’re gonna do sounds good.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#9 posted 02-21-2015 10:52 AM

Very nice Earl and thanks for the pictures. I’m working with the studs being behind sheet rock so I am limited a bit. I’ll be mounting it today, using carriage bolts behind the plywood. I’d love to vent it outside, but the negative air pressure from doing so will suck in the cold cold cold Wyoming air during the winter. I am having a friend build a air return box out of sheet metal that will have several air filters stacked up. I’m using a dust deputy cyclone for separation. I’ll post some pics when its up and running.

To ease my worry about it falling and doing some damage, I’ve decided to add a safety rope harness that will be anchored into the ceiling joist. If it did happen to fall off the wall, it will be swinging freely above my drill press.

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Thanks Fridge!

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#10 posted 02-21-2015 05:46 PM

Yeah that was fun. Worked out fairly well, One of the carriage bolts came loose and is spinning so I’ll have to fix that later. The wife is going to have to tolerate a 30 decibel increase inside the house while the thing is on. My daughter already told me its too loud and she cant hear her Disney jr. Its hitting ~90-95 in the garage, full power without any hoses or anything else running. Certainly will be doubling up on plugs and muffs when this thing is on…

Seeing how little ducting I will have between the unit, cyclone, and tool (it will be hooked up directly to the tool), I’m wondering if a throttle (if it exists- need to research it) will allow me to reduce a lot of the noise while still maintaining adequate suction…

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#11 posted 02-21-2015 06:12 PM

That motor will only go one speed without a vfd.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#12 posted 02-21-2015 07:51 PM

It didn’t pass the wife’s approval. Certainly didn’t pass the daughters test either. She said, “Daddy! its too loud. I cant hear my Disney Junior!” Last thing I need to do is interrupt mini-mouse.

Back to the drawing board. I foresee it sitting on a stand, next to the dust deputy, taking up what little floor space is left. It will be a gamble with the VFD. I think I’d get better results using that buck fifty and making a stand for it.

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