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Forum topic by Tooch posted 02-19-2015 03:48 PM 4942 views 0 times favorited 40 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Tooch

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02-19-2015 03:48 PM

Topic tags/keywords: online plans online scam email spam teds woodworking tip question resource

In a moment of weakness, I fell Victim to purchasing a subscription for something called Ted’s Woodworking (web site here), which promoted that it offered over 16,000 woodworking plans. As a woodworking teacher, I am always on the lookout for pre-made plans of projects that are at a “high-school-level”, and thought this would be awesome.

As soon as I tried to start downloading the plans in the “members” area, I came across problem after problem. Most clicks just re-directed me back to the main page, or a page that had frequently asked questions. I immediately knew that this wasn’t something legit, so tried to file for their “Money Back Guarentee”. Of course, there is no phone number to call, only a digital form to fill out and they promise to get back to you in 3-4 business days. I filed several tickets, and am still waiting to here back from Ted.

I went online and did a little more digging, and found that many people expressed dis-pleasure with this website, and also stumbled upon this article from Feb 10 basically saying that someome hacked their account and is sending out spam emails.

Currently, I am in the middle of filing a dispute with my credit card company, hoping to get out of paying the $80+ that I fell victim to. Granted, I typed in my information (and feel like a horses ass for doing so) so I acknowledge that it is my responsibility, but I do not want anyone else to have to fall victim to this Scam just as I have.

Has anyone else had interaction with this site? If so please feel free to share your experience.

P.S. – I think Ted is a jagoff.

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails


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jmartel

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#1 posted 02-19-2015 03:50 PM

Yes, it’s a scam. The plans are either readily available free online, or they are stolen plans. Plus, as you have found, it’s difficult to get your money back. They keep spamming on the website here under different names.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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Tooch

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#2 posted 02-19-2015 03:57 PM

The only thing that makes me more upset is that I fell for it… ugh…

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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woodshaver (Tony)

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#3 posted 02-19-2015 04:28 PM

Tooch,
OUCH!
Sorry you got cough up in that mess.

For me, these types of ad’s have a certain look to them. But sometimes I’ll give it a few seconds to listen and then I’ll see or hear something that make me say NOPE!
Like…..
“I can only leave this video up for 24 hours” was my red flag.

I figured it was one of those ads that you had to listen to for a long time, taking up so much of your time that you felt you should do it or all the time you spent on listening was wasted.

Now, I usually steer clear of anything that resembles an ad like this. I’ve been taken a few time also, It’s hard to know what’s good and what’s not.

I hope you get your money back.

-- Tony C UAW, St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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Tooch

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#4 posted 02-19-2015 04:36 PM

Tony I after several calls and lots of time waiting on hold, I finally got throgh to someone from ClickBank. The gentleman on the other end of the line granted me a refund, but said it will take up to 5 days to post.

I think I’m going to file a Dispute with my credit card company anyhow, just to be safe.

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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#5 posted 02-19-2015 04:39 PM

By all means file with your Credit Card.
Any thing connected to Ted’s is a scam and that includes various delaying tactics.

-- Michael: Hillary has a long list of accomplishments, though most DAs would refer to them as felonies.

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ScottKaye

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#6 posted 02-19-2015 04:45 PM

almost all of his designs and probably “all” of them are stolen from other woodworkers.. Check out WWMM. He’s done a video all about TED and his shady practices! link here

-- "Nothing happens until you build it"

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bondogaposis

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#7 posted 02-19-2015 04:55 PM

Wish you would have checked here first. Ted’s is a well known scam and all of their plans are either stolen or are available free elsewhere.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#8 posted 02-19-2015 04:57 PM

Hmmm.. that video link seems to be broken for me.. but a quick google search for “Ted’s woodworking fraud” turns up a LOT of hits, even from Matthias over at woodgears.ca ( http://woodgears.ca/ted/ ) and Steve Ramsey has a page devoted to him at WWMM ( http://www.woodworkingformeremortals.com/2012/04/teds-woodworking-fraud.html ). Someone even tried to find the address listed for them and it doesn’t exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3rAcKT7NCw

File that claim with your CC company.. sooner rather than later!

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#9 posted 02-19-2015 05:04 PM

Ole Ted the woodworker has been around a long time.

https://www.google.com/#q=ted%27s+woodworking+rip+off+reports

Here is the Whois records on his website:

http://whois.domaintools.com/tedswoodworking.com

Here is where his website is hosted: If’s he’s on a VPS server he’s most likely looking for some security and his site could be taking 1000’s of unique hits a day.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

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#10 posted 02-19-2015 05:13 PM

Call up your issuing credit card company that you used and tell them it was a scam and you never got the services you paid for. They will take the money back out of Toms woodworking merchent account. If they get enough of these complaints the credit card companies will drop them and they will not be allowed to accept cards any more. As an added bonus for each one of the complaints and refunds the percentage they pay per transaction goes up.

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woodshaver (Tony)

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#11 posted 02-19-2015 05:28 PM

Glad to hear that your’e getting a refund Tooch! Hope it all goes smoothly!
I would still do what some of the guys have mentioned here. Call the number on the back of your credit card and they will take any charges off your bill.

-- Tony C UAW, St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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#12 posted 02-19-2015 08:50 PM

I am sorry to say I did something similar BUT as i used paypal I just lodged protest with them saying Goods where not as described and was fraudulent and asked for refund, same with ClickBank and got full refund within 5 days. As long as you state the transaction was “Not as described and was Fraudulent” you should have no problem getting a refund. I never make decisions with my friend Jim Beam after that.

Regards Tom

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Blackie_

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#13 posted 02-19-2015 08:57 PM

Tooch, this has been a well spoken topic here on LJ’s in the past, Steve Ramsey has several videos on Ted’s woodworking, be sure to go through all of his videos, here’s one for starters.

http://lumberjocks.com/Stevinmarin/blog/29377

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Tooch

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#14 posted 02-19-2015 09:04 PM

TommyB funny you mention that, Jim was also a part of my poor decision making… Although it wasn’t the first bad decision with Jimmy at the helm of my brain, I can assure you it won’t be the last, either!

Randy times like these I wish I was a more active participant on the LJs forums… I normally stick to the projects or forum topics posted by my buddies

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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#15 posted 02-19-2015 09:14 PM

Tooch, I have my students research free plans for what they want to make. This gives them a good starting point. All my students have MacBooks so the research can be done in class.

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