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Dick, & Barb Cain

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2441 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: safety grr-ripper tablesaw dick

After reading about Haugnutz bad ordeal with his saw, I thought I’d show you my latest purchase.

It’s a GRR-Ripper to replace a push stick.

There’s a video demo of this tool on this site.

I haven’t had a chance to use it yet, but it’ been on my list for a long time now.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1


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Lee A. Jesberger

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#1 posted 2441 days ago

Hi Dick;

Anything to keep your fingers where they belong is a wise investment.

Have fun with it.

Lee

-- by Lee A. Jesberger http://www.prowoodworkingtips.com http://www.ezee-feed.com

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Bob Babcock

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#2 posted 2441 days ago

Looks like a good buy. I like my fingers.

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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Mike Lingenfelter

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#3 posted 2441 days ago

I picked one of these up a few months ago, and I really like it! You have to spend a little time adjusting it before you use it, but it goes quick. I think it is time well spent. For the foot rest I just built, I used the GRR-Ripper to cut 1/4” x 1/4” pieces of maple that I turned into dowels. I would never have tried that with regular push sticks!

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Bob #2

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#4 posted 2441 days ago

I keep looking and not getting.
It may be the right time to change that.
I spend too much time getting the saw stable for my cut and I can see this gizmo saving me some shop time.

Thanks for the heads up Dick.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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niki

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#5 posted 2441 days ago

Hi Dick

Sorry to be negative about the Grrriper…it’s just me

If you would post it on a UK forum, you would get a bunch of negative replies…it’s against the EU safety regulations to work without a blade guard.

I made one some 1 year ago and posted it on the UK forum before even trying it, and…if I got it…

I was sure that it’s very safe but when I actually worked with it…well, I was lucky that I was wearing my brown pants….

When my hand was over the exposed blade, I got terrified (and many scenarios past through my mind) and I could not continue…I just hit the “STOP” and never used it again…

niki

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PanamaJack

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#6 posted 2441 days ago

After Hawg…I ordered one just now! Thanks for the heads up, once again, Dick!

-- Carpe Lignum; Tornare Lignum (Seize the wood, to Turn the wood)

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GaryK

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#7 posted 2441 days ago

Niki – I can’t see how you guys in the EU can get anything done. Some of your safety regulations go way overboard. I like your solution though. It’s better than paying $50.

Dick – That guy in the video sure saw biased toward the Gripper. He left out the splitter and always pushed at the back right corner to make sure it rotated. All you need to do was to put a non-skid stick on rubber
pad to prevent the material from moving away from the fence.

I’m not saying that the gripper not safer, it looks like it is in some cases. I hope that it keeps your fingers where they belong!

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Bob #2

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#8 posted 2441 days ago

Nick.
I’m curious.
How do you folks run dados with a blade guard in place?
I have to think you must perhaps use a router for this procedure?

I am also wondering how you would go about cutting thin slices from stock unless you devised a jig to cut from the outside of the stock instead of the fence side. ( But then would that not defeat the blade guard again?)

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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niki

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#9 posted 2441 days ago

Thank you GaryK
First, I did not say that I’m “safety angel” but, I’m an amateur and the regulations do not apply to me.
The registered businesses must obey the law and must buy the “correct machine for the correct job”...
But look at the bright side…because of those safety laws, the Table saws manufacturers must provide a Riving knife, a quick install/remove guard with dust port, the blade must stop within 10 seconds and surrounded with a shield and dust port (dust control regulation).

Bob
Most of the Table saws (including mine) are coming with short arbor so dado blade cannot be installed.
Some Table saws has a long arbor and they use the dado blade with overhead guard and that’s acceptable.
As you said, I’m cutting dados with the router…

Regards
niki

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#10 posted 2441 days ago

It looks like we have a little debate going here. I think it’s good thing to discuss things.

I was going to make a copy of the Gripper, but I figured in order to do a good job, it would waste a lot of my time.

Now I can spend my time to produce something.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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Hawgnutz

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#11 posted 2441 days ago

On my accident, I was cutting dadoes with a 15 degree slant to tilt the dominoes. I have done it dozens of yimes before, but te repetitiveness got my lacksadasical. Coul dnot have used a roouter. (would have been my chpice for this)

Let me know if eth gripper is all that it is cracked up to be. Making boxes, it sure would be easier to use to make 1/4” or 3/8” sthick stock.

God Bless,
Hawg
(finger is doing fine!)

-- Saving barnwood from the scrapyards

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Bob #2

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#12 posted 2441 days ago

Dick:
a peace oiffering!
Last thing I want here is confrontation/debate.
What’s to learn if we don’t discuss?

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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Don

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#13 posted 2440 days ago

I’ve been using the Grr-Ripper for four years; I have two of them. When cutting pieces for small boxes, they are invaluable. It allows one to control small pieces of wood with hands and fingers well away from the blade. I can’t imagine how else I could make some of the cuts I do with complete safety.

It would be interesting to learn just how many home woodworkers in Europe and other parts of the world actually keep their blade guards on the saw. I persisted for a few years trying to do so, but quite frankly, ofet found I was pushing the limits of safety trying to work with the cumbersome guard.

-- CanuckDon "I just love small wooden boxes!" http://dpb-photography.me/

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niki

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#14 posted 2440 days ago

Hi Dick

There is no debate…so far, I’m the only one that does not feel safe with the Grriper…

I think that safe or unsafe is a personal feeling and everybody is free to choose…

Please have a look at the picture below…I think that many will tell me that it’s unsafe but, I feel very comfortable and safe with it (for the last 11 years)...personal feeling…

Don
I don’t have any idea how many home woodworkers in Europe keeps the guard “ON” but if you noticed, on most of my posts the guard is installed and till today I did not have any problem cutting even small pieces using push shoes, and for crosscut, hold downs or clamps, usually with a sled.

Best regards
niki

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#15 posted 2440 days ago

Niki,
Thanks for your input, but I don’t think I’d ever use my hand held saw without the guard. Mine has a lever, if you want the guard out of the way temporarily.
Hand held power equipment can be very dangerous. A guy that worked for me removed the guard on a right angle grinder, because he thought it was a nuisance. One of the other guys was using it , & the wheel caught on his coveralls, & almost ripped them off of him. Luckily he didn’t get hurt.

Bob: What great price for the grripper.

Don: You upped my confidence, that I made a good purchase.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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