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Forum topic by BobinMad posted 02-18-2015 07:23 PM 2584 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-18-2015 07:23 PM

Topic tags/keywords: steet city grizzly delta basement shop question tablesaw

I have an entry level shop (lots of basement space, but trying to keep to a hobbyist budget). Recently, I’ve been looking at Hybrid table saws and found this seemingly newer model of Steel City Tools tablesaw: here -it’s on sale, but I’m not sure how typical the price is (everything is always “70%” off at some places…) I’d love to get some feedback/reviews.

Steel City: 45950G-A36 (newer?)
Steel City: 35950 (older?)
Delta: 36-5100
Grizzly: G0715P

It seems to hit the points I’m looking for, but I’m not seeing many reviews online. It does look like the miter slots now have aluminum t-tracks, which may prevent chipping of the granite. Anyone have any thoughts on this saw, or others in the same price range (around $1,000). I’ve been looking for used, but around here that generally means an old craftsman or delta would likely take some work (and money) to get in working order.

I’ve seen some posts on Steel City saws from several years ago, but this looks to be a new model. I’m thinking about the SCT saw, or maybe a Grizzly hybrid, Delta contractor, or something along those lines (panel/current wiring are keeping me from jumping to 240v). Hoping for nice surface and a quality fence (anything will likely be an improvement over my Ridgid portable saw). I’m open to any/all suggestions and comments, so please fire away!

-- Bob in Madison


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#1 posted 02-18-2015 07:47 PM

I had a ridgid with the granite top. I had a few chips on it by the time I sold it. I would reccoment against it due to the fact you will use it as a work bench and hit something with a hammer and chip the top.

I have a Delta Unisaw and have no complaints about it. Grizzly I have heard good things about.

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#2 posted 02-18-2015 10:14 PM

I’m not yet familiar with the new Steel City model.

The 35950 has a full cabinet, nice fence, built in wheels, and cabinet mounted trunnions, which are easier to reach and align. The Craftsman 22116 is made is made by Steel City/Orion, and also has cabinet mounted trunnions. The 35990C comes with a bit less fence, but is well proven, has wheels, cabinet mounted trunnions, and solid cast wings (~ $869 at Lowes or HD).

The G0715P has been well reviewed, and comes with solid cast wings, a full enclosure, and a nice fence, but has table mounted trunnions. There’s also a new G0771 hybrid that offers cabinet mounted trunnions, full enclosure, solid wings, but has a lesser aluminum fence.

I haven’t seen anything from the higher end Delta hybrid models that justifies that cost difference from the 36-725, making it’s value less attractive to me. The 36-725 has proven to be a good buy at ~ $550, but I’m not ready to risk $1200 on basically the same design.

I’d add the Jet Proshop 708492K to the mix just to compare. Nice saw, 5 year warranty, cabinet mounted trunnions, decent fence, steel wings (~ $1200)...some of the premium price is for dealer support and longer warranty, so I’d rather buy it locally than mail order it.

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#3 posted 02-19-2015 11:56 AM

Steel City’s warehouse is in Bolingbrook, IL, i’d guess within a few hours of you. One of their current demo offerings is a 35975GR asking $1,000 for it with the 50” Industrial Fence. http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/tld/4877536230.html It’s been in their CL ad for probably 3 months or so (with the “just reduced” comment), so for a cash sale it might be had for a little less than that. I’d like to move up to a 3 hp, left tilt, 50” saw but it’s not in the current budget—so i wish they would get this one sold so i don’t have to keep seeing it.

As agallant said, if you pound on the granite top with a hammer, you could chip it. But…if you beat on a cast iron top with a hammer you could break the casting. My solution is to use a workbench when i beat on things with a hammer.

earl

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#4 posted 02-19-2015 09:13 PM

Still with us Bob?

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#5 posted 02-19-2015 09:38 PM

Steel City is moving their warehouse, so are trying to reduce inventory before the move and are offering some great pricing to dealers. If you are thinking about purchasing a new SC, now is the best time.

-- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Thomas Jefferson

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#6 posted 02-19-2015 10:11 PM

Thanks all for your input. The more I think about it, the close I am to pulling the trigger on a Steel City TS. Chicago isn’t too far, and I’m not too worried about granite (aside from a hauling it up a steep driveway and taking down the basement stairs) as I have a separate work surface.

Busy at work, so it may be hard to get down to IL. Thanks again, I’ll take a picture if/when the new saw shows up in my basement. Watch for news headline “Wisconsin Man Crushed by Own Saw.”

-- Bob in Madison

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#7 posted 02-20-2015 12:36 AM



Steel City is moving their warehouse, so are trying to reduce inventory before the move and are offering some great pricing to dealers. If you are thinking about purchasing a new SC, now is the best time.

- JayT

Any idea of where they are relocating to Jay? Like BobinMad, i’m only two hours from them now, but the logistics of getting there on a weekday with a truck have been tough. I should have bought one of their demos instead of my Craftsman hybred—but i couldn’t see my wants well enough at the time.

earl

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#8 posted 02-20-2015 04:04 AM

No, I don’t remember for sure, sorry. I got the email at work and deleted it because other than the discounted prices, the warehouse location didn’t really affect me. I want to say Indianapolis area, but could be wrong, so please don’t quote me on that.

Some of the sale prices are also because of some model changes, so older discontinued models are being marked down, as well.

-- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Thomas Jefferson

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#9 posted 02-20-2015 11:43 AM

Thanks Jay—Indianapolis would be a little farther for me, but much more predictable drive (and i’m there at least 12 times/year anyway!!).

Bob—have you called Steel City on that saw? Keep us posted on your progress whatever direction you go.

earl

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#10 posted 02-20-2015 12:24 PM

I have the Ridgid granite top saw and have had no issues.

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#11 posted 03-10-2015 07:50 PM

I ended up ordering and have received my Steel City Tablesaw. I bought the newer version of the contractor saw with 36” fence from Woodwerks

I’ll write a short review after I’ve spent some time with it, but I’ll say it’s a massive improvement over my portable Ridgid table saw. Also, it appears that the “improved” fence is a step up over the prevous SCT tablesaw (now a beisemeyer style fence with one-piece rail).

-- Bob in Madison

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#12 posted 01-19-2017 04:38 AM

Bob I know I’m a few years later, I’d like to know if you have a followup on you steel city saw.

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#13 posted 01-19-2017 06:09 AM

fyi, Steel City is out of business

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BobinMad

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#14 posted 01-20-2017 01:44 AM

I like my steel city saw quite a bit. I’m a hobby-level woodworker. I make stuff for me, my family, and occasional gifts. I’m not in production/sales, so the saw isn’t expected to hold up to commercial demands.

+The granite top is nice, and I haven’t chipped it with anything (avoidable by treating the TS as a tool and not as a workbench). That said, I do leave glue-ups on it from time to time and the drips pop right off the granite. Never a worry about rust, unlike my band saw and jointer.

+Noise. This thing is quiet/smooth in operation. It passes the coin test and doesn’t scream like a portable TS.

+Accuracy/stability. I had to work a bit to get the fence, blade, and miter slots into parallel, but it’s stays true. When locked, the fence doesn’t budge.

+/- Size. It’s small enough (rip capacity of ~36”) that it doesn’t take up too much room, but I could benefits to a 52” capacity…on rare occasion.

+/- Dust collection is decent once I sealed up some of the openings in the hybrid “cabinet.”

+/- Power. It’s a 1.5HP saw, so I wasn’t expecting great things. I was pretty disappointed in cutting performance with the original blade. I tossed in a Diablo rip blade and it was great. I eventually added a Forest Woodworker II and I don’t worry about power for the most part. I typically cut 4/4 up to 8/4 Maple, Walnut, Cherry, Beech, and Purple Heart. If I was plowing through 8/4 and 12/4 hardwoods in big batches, I would want a more powerful saw (necessitating 220v power).

+/- Weight. While having a heavy/sturdy saw is nice….getting into a basement shop wasn’t too fun. I ended up taking all the granite off the saw and reassembling the saw in the basement.

-The manufacturer (Steel City). I was pumped when I got the saw and thought “great, I can outfit my shop with matching tools”. A few weeks later, Steel City disappeared. I discovered this when the knob on the fence cracked, broke off, and cut my hand. I figured Steel City could drop one in the mail and it wouldn’t be an issue. Emailed their customer service and got some goofy response/links didn’t work on their website. I contacted Wood Werks Supply where I bought the saw. They are AWESOME. They let me know Steel City was out of business but they were able to find a knob and sent it to me for free.

+/- Accessories. Even though the manufacturer is gone, I was able to find zero clearance and dado inserts for the saw that fit perfectly at Woodcraft and on Amazon.com

Overall, the saw was good purchase for the price. Would I like a PM2000 or a Saw Stop PCS? yup. Do I want to spend $thousands? nope. I would consider a bigger/nicer saw sometime down the road, but I don’t think I can justify the price for a high end saw currently. It’s a great sub-$800 saw, so long as expectations are adjusted for the price.

-- Bob in Madison

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apehl

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#15 posted 01-28-2017 04:49 PM



fyi, Steel City is out of business

- Rick M

I have been a little confused on this, because I have read that a few places but they have an active website with new products. A local dealer is selling a SC 45950G-A52 for $900 (which is why I’m interested in this thread). He claims steel city was just bought out by a Canadian company, but they are very much in business. Did they go out of business a few years ago and then a new investor bought them?

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