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02-17-2015 02:10 PM

Anyone privy to any news of upcoming “sales” on SawStop professional saws? Officially in the market for one and I know on rare occasion they have a sale like they did last year where you got the mobile base free. I do not mind waiting a couple months for this if needed.

Thanks in advance!


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#1 posted 02-17-2015 02:18 PM

there is an ad inside the front cover of the April Woodworker’s Journal promoting a sale. Here is a pic of that page.

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#2 posted 02-17-2015 02:19 PM

Thanks Joey…wasn’t expecting a positive answer so fast! Looks like I’ll wait until March 1st to buy one.

Now let the never ending debate on the value of a SawStop begin

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#3 posted 02-17-2015 02:24 PM

And here’ s the catch

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#4 posted 02-17-2015 02:26 PM

always some fine print. Wondered why there was such a large price difference for the 1.75 vs 3HP. Sure bigger motors have more copper, but now it is clear there are more differences than just power.

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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#5 posted 02-17-2015 02:33 PM

I guess I can start the debate…which should you get, the dust collection or mobile base? I was planning on the free mobile base, but wondering how useful that is with the table extension on legs.

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#6 posted 02-17-2015 02:57 PM

I own the 3 horse professional model with the 36” rails. Both the base and the dust collection work well. The foot pedal on the base lifts and lowers the saw with very little effort. The legs of the extension table are lifted off the ground, so that is not a problem. I do not know if this is also the case for the longer extension. One issue that has been mentioned about the base is that this model has two fixed wheels. It’s not a big deal for me since I rarely have the need to move the saw, but anyone who wants more freedom of motion should opt for the higher priced base or an aftermarket model.

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#7 posted 02-17-2015 03:04 PM


always some fine print. Wondered why there was such a large price difference for the 1.75 vs 3HP. Sure bigger motors have more copper, but now it is clear there are more differences than just power.

- DrDirt

I’m not sure, though the wiring would be a little different. But recently I was in the market for an ICS, and found a used 3 phase model (5 HP). I called SS to ask about converting it to single phase. No problem, they said…all I needed was a replacement motor from them and a contactor box. The motor was $300, and the box $100 (plus shipping). Fair enough, and a good price. I passed on that, but then found out that to buy an ICS with the 5 HP motor was a $400 upcharge over the 3 HP! So the motor by itself was less than the surcharge. I like SS ( a lot, I did buy one) but I do think there is some gouging going on every time you go up one notch in anything.

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#8 posted 02-17-2015 04:08 PM


always some fine print. Wondered why there was such a large price difference for the 1.75 vs 3HP. Sure bigger motors have more copper, but now it is clear there are more differences than just power.

- DrDirt

If you go through the build wizard on their website you’ll see what comes standard and what must be added. From 1.75hp to 3hp the only differences are the motor and blade guard.

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#9 posted 02-17-2015 05:40 PM


always some fine print. Wondered why there was such a large price difference for the 1.75 vs 3HP. Sure bigger motors have more copper, but now it is clear there are more differences than just power.

- DrDirt

If you go through the build wizard on their website you ll see what comes standard and what must be added. From 1.75hp to 3hp the only differences are the motor and blade guard.

- Rob


Rob my point was along the lines of Fred’s experience

Changing the motor entirely (not gettin credit for the old one) but a flat out purchase of the different motor was 400 dollars including switches.

Yet if you are buying new….

The 36 inch fence 1.75HP saw is 2469

The 36 inch T-glide fence version 3HP is 2899
http://www.woodcraft.com/category/PT118-09/table-saws.aspx?brand=Sawstop&Style=Cabinet%20Saw

So why is there a 430 dollar difference right from the factory based on which motor? If I can just buy a 3HP motor outright for 300 dollars (assuming the 1.75 HP is FREE)?

What else must be different.

Not attacking sawstop, I want one myself, but the price difference based on the catalog description difference makes no sense.

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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#10 posted 02-17-2015 06:13 PM


Rob my point was along the lines of Fred’s experience

Changing the motor entirely (not gettin credit for the old one) but a flat out purchase of the different motor was 400 dollars including switches.

Yet if you are buying new….

The 36 inch fence 1.75HP saw is 2469

The 36 inch T-glide fence version 3HP is 2899
http://www.woodcraft.com/category/PT118-09/table-saws.aspx?brand=Sawstop&Style=Cabinet%20Saw

So why is there a 430 dollar difference right from the factory based on which motor? If I can just buy a 3HP motor outright for 300 dollars (assuming the 1.75 HP is FREE)?

What else must be different.

Not attacking sawstop, I want one myself, but the price difference based on the catalog description difference makes no sense.

- DrDirt

Fred’s $400 figure doesn’t include shipping. The $430 difference going from the 1.75hp saw to the 3hp includes the bigger motor AND the blade guard upgrade. Subtract the blade guard from the $430 figure to get the cost of the motor upgrade.

In any case, you may want to call SawStop to confirm the cost plus shipping for upgrading from 1.75hp to 3hp. LJ Manitario upgraded from 1.75hp to 3hp about a year ago and said it cost $550 for the motor and switch box. I assume that figure included shipping, but you could ask him for an exact breakdown or just call SawStop.

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#11 posted 02-17-2015 07:16 PM


always some fine print. Wondered why there was such a large price difference for the 1.75 vs 3HP. Sure bigger motors have more copper, but now it is clear there are more differences than just power.

- DrDirt

The reason its cheaper at purchase, is it’s already built with the options in it. If you are ordering it separately, they are having to carry the parts, and overhead and cost of inventory and so on, is why it’s more expensive.

If you go through the build wizard on their website you ll see what comes standard and what must be added. From 1.75hp to 3hp the only differences are the motor and blade guard.

- Rob

Rob my point was along the lines of Fred s experience

Changing the motor entirely (not gettin credit for the old one) but a flat out purchase of the different motor was 400 dollars including switches.

Yet if you are buying new….

The 36 inch fence 1.75HP saw is 2469

The 36 inch T-glide fence version 3HP is 2899
http://www.woodcraft.com/category/PT118-09/table-saws.aspx?brand=Sawstop&Style=Cabinet%20Saw

So why is there a 430 dollar difference right from the factory based on which motor? If I can just buy a 3HP motor outright for 300 dollars (assuming the 1.75 HP is FREE)?

What else must be different.

Not attacking sawstop, I want one myself, but the price difference based on the catalog description difference makes no sense.

- DrDirt

always some fine print. Wondered why there was such a large price difference for the 1.75 vs 3HP. Sure bigger motors have more copper, but now it is clear there are more differences than just power.

- DrDirt

If you go through the build wizard on their website you ll see what comes standard and what must be added. From 1.75hp to 3hp the only differences are the motor and blade guard.

- Rob

Rob my point was along the lines of Fred s experience

Changing the motor entirely (not gettin credit for the old one) but a flat out purchase of the different motor was 400 dollars including switches.

Yet if you are buying new….

The 36 inch fence 1.75HP saw is 2469

The 36 inch T-glide fence version 3HP is 2899
http://www.woodcraft.com/category/PT118-09/table-saws.aspx?brand=Sawstop&Style=Cabinet%20Saw

So why is there a 430 dollar difference right from the factory based on which motor? If I can just buy a 3HP motor outright for 300 dollars (assuming the 1.75 HP is FREE)?

What else must be different.

Not attacking sawstop, I want one myself, but the price difference based on the catalog description difference makes no sense.

- DrDirt

The reason if it’s bought separately it’s more expensive, is when bought as a model its already built. You don’t order a saw with options and they go grab the motor you want and put it in the same cabinet. They keep the ones built in inventory and send it so it’s cheaper that way.

Now to order the options separate, you have to pay for all the trappings that go with that. You are paying for someone to order/manage the parts ship the parts track the separate inventory etc and overhead associated with that.

I remember calling Northfield about the cost of a Byrd head for my my big Planer and pointed to how much it cost as an option if I was buying a new planer. I asked if I could get one for that price. He laughed and said no. Needless to say the cost of that head was 4 times what i paid for the planer. Oh well :)

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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#12 posted 02-17-2015 07:41 PM

Bones I agree – - point I made is buying and additional SEPERATE motor as Fred did was 300 Bucks.

Buying NEW as an Option straight from the factory already in the saw, is 430 dollars – - – I don’t understand why that price DIFFERENCE on a NEW machine…. is MORE than buying an ADDITIONAL Motor.
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Not following Rob…. sure shipping wasn’t included, but fred is BUYING a motor for 300 dollars.

I do not believe that the DIFFERENCE in price off the shelf of buying a 1.75hp motor and a 3HP motor can be that much.

This is from Grizzly – (i know not marathon) but the DELTA in price is my point. 3450RPM single phase motors

2HP 240
3HP 325

So you get an 85 dollar difference in motor cost.
the blade guard having a dust attachment is an EXTRA 350 over and above the cost of stock??

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#13 posted 02-17-2015 08:01 PM

order the 3 hp separate then sell the 1.75 for 100+ then your cost would only be 200.

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#14 posted 02-17-2015 08:08 PM

Sounds a bit of a rip off to me.You should be paying only the difference (if there is one) between the single and three phase motors, not one on top of the other.So in effect as I understand it you are paying for something you are not getting.I would give this company a wide body swerve if it were me.That’s not the first time I have been less than impressed wit ss. You can alter any three phase motor to stop imediately quite easilyWith no damage and parts to replace . Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#15 posted 02-17-2015 09:01 PM

Here is my 2 cents. I bought a SawStop PCS 1.75 hp. because I don’t have 220 wired in my shop. I also got the integrated mobile base, which I hated from the beginning. It has two swivel casters and two fixed. That means you have to drive it wherever you want it. I store mine against the wall since my shop is somewhat small. The fixed wheels are orientated across the saw so to get it out I had to back and fill like parallel parking a car. After about 2 years I gave up, bought the ICS mobile base, sold the PCS mobile base on eBay for a loss. All four wheels pivot and roll smooth as glass. The ICS mobile base is a way better unit. If your going to have to move your saw a lot get the ICS base. Now it’s dancing with the saw’s…

And as for the folks complaining about SS being a rip off. They are up front about what they charge. Nothing hidden. If you don’t want to spend the money, don’t buy. Then look down at those fingers you are typing with and tell me what they are worth.

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