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Forum topic by Sanderguy777 posted 02-16-2015 01:22 AM 966 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-16-2015 01:22 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question carving tool gouge blade plane carving

I am trying to find carving knives that will be able to whittle and carve….... and survive. I took my slightly used and two or three year old Flexcut detail knife out and started to finish carving the outside of a new bench dog ( I made some out of some pretty soft wood to hold boards steady for my planes). A little while after that the blade falls out! I couldn’t believe it.

Any way, I am looking for some new knives that have rivets in the blade and handle. Looking at Woodcraft, most of their stuff is just chip carving knives. The thing I need to know is, can I use chip carving knives for whittling and other “stressful” things or should I look for other, stronger knives? ( Are chip carving knives any different than “regular” knives; thinner, weaker, more delicately ground bevels on blade?)


I like the Flexcut, but if they fall apart then I need to get some that won’t fall apart. Thanks


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#1 posted 02-16-2015 02:00 AM

Detail knife won’t withstand heavy duty whittling. The flexcut roughing knife works really well. Chip carving knives can work if sharp and only use the ones designed for heavier material removal.

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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#2 posted 02-16-2015 02:46 AM

So your saying that I need a roughing knife or a chip carver that is strong? What style is for heavy material removal? I was not using it very roughly, though.

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#3 posted 02-16-2015 02:50 AM

Look for Ron carving knives. I have them and not failed. I am not carving oak or maple with that…..

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#4 posted 02-16-2015 03:19 AM

Take a look at Mora sloyd knives. Highland Hardware carry them and Woodcraft used to. They are about ten bucks. For rough carving its a great knife and cheap.

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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#5 posted 02-16-2015 04:56 AM

I need to get it from Woodcraft. All I can find there are Hock, Pfeil, Flexcut, Woodcraft brand, and Butz knives. Of these, which are the best?

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#6 posted 02-16-2015 08:00 AM

If I were to fix the one I have how would I go about it? Glue?

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#7 posted 02-17-2015 01:48 AM

I recommend Woodcarver’s Supply (http://www.woodcarverssupply.com/products.asp?dept=23). I bought a set of the “replaceable” blades and made my own handles to fit. You may want to get the handle they offer.. The blades are great!

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#8 posted 06-23-2015 03:24 PM

HI Sanderguy
I use a chip carving knife to moat all of caricatures,mine is Wayne Barton knife, I would be completely lost with out it, I just read a bog about making a chip carving knife from a hacksaw blade, I think I will giv it a try Bruce

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#9 posted 06-23-2015 04:11 PM

Why not use a utility knife?

Check out http://outwestwoodcarving.blogspot.com/http://
to see Lynn Doughty’s carvings.

He does amazing things with a utility knife. He strops it to get it sharp enough for carving. Once the blade fails, you replace it for nothing.

I use a folding Husky utility knife in my shop and have a version of his “Ol’ Reliable”—a utility knife that doesn’t retract—in my shop. The utility knife gets all the usual stuff and the stropped, non-retractable is used for the highly detailed carving.

Good Luck!

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#10 posted 06-23-2015 05:49 PM

I have a utility knife that I did that with someplace…. The other thing that I found is that Harbor Freight has an exacto knife kit that is $8. I got it and sharpened and stropped the blades and I can use it for bark carving and if a blade breaks or gets chipped I can get a new set.

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#11 posted 06-23-2015 09:24 PM

Not much else you can do whittling wise because the blade is short, I would think.
Plus, I think you would ruin the edge at the very least you would be sharpening it way more than you normally would have to.

You can whittle with just about any kind of knife, but chip carving knives are designed to have a flexible blade with a certain geometry to facilitate the 3 point cut.

You have a grinder, right? I remember seeing a post where you made your own chisel.
Why not just make one out of an old saw blade?

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#12 posted 06-23-2015 09:49 PM

Chip carving knives are not really designed for whittling. You can easily fix your Flexcut knife by just putting a little epoxy on the tang and sticking it back in. You might look at Helvie Knives. He makes a variety of different sizes and a larger roughout knife would be pretty sturdy. But the blades are not pinned. If you want something for rougher work then get a cheap knife you don’t mind tearing up!

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#13 posted 06-24-2015 03:37 AM

rwe2156 What kind of blade? I saw the jig saw blade thing someplace on youtube but I don’t want to temper anything.

I did fix the Flexcut but I just used Titebond 2 and if it acts up again I will try the epoxy.

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