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phonewired

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05-02-2009 01:52 AM

I did a test by using some pine for a outside planter box. It failed because when it got wet the mitered corners started to separate. I even treated the wood first and had 2 to 3 coats of latex exterior paint on it.
As an alternative, I found a place to buy eastern cedar, planed both sides, that is cedar chest quality for about $2.00 per square ft. 3/4 inch by various widths. I will be using a router to make my own decorative trim for the boxes out of the cedar. My questions are: is cedar hard to route to make trim? Also can cedar hold paint? I have to make these in white color. Thanks again for all the help with my questions. Noel.

-- Noel, Iowa www.primitivefurnituresales.com


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#1 posted 05-02-2009 01:58 AM

Cedar is soft wood and will route easily. But, I have never tried to paint cedar. Always put a clear coat or a stain on the cedar I’ve ever used.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

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#2 posted 05-02-2009 02:52 AM

Hey Noel
I know everyone turns there nose up at butt joints ,because it’s what people use that don’t have much experience in woodworking, But for this application a butt joint with mechanical fasteners(screws or nails) will work fine. If that’s not the look you want try large finger joints but still with fasteners or even hand cut dovetails. The problem with miters on out door applications is when the wood shrinks back your miter opens remember a miter is a type of butt joint but with even less strength unless reinforced because your connecting end grain to end grain. Cedar should last longer because of it’s tannic acid content , but because of that if your going to paint cedar it requires a well bonding oil base exterior primer before you paint . You may also use a solid body exterior stain without primer . Just like Jerry said ceder is soft it will route like butter assuming there are no knots

Jim

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#3 posted 05-02-2009 03:02 AM

agree with a1, butt joints and a kreg pocket hole.. cedar is softer then pine.. use primer then paint.. i use black tar to seal the interior of flower boxes.. if you can find cypress it works as well..i would use gorillia glue because of the use and oil content of cedar..

here in sc red cedar is free if you want to stop and pick it up.. old trees lay down in bad wind and get used for fence post

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#4 posted 05-02-2009 03:27 AM

Thanks for all the ifo again, that should help alot. Have a great weekend, Noel.

-- Noel, Iowa www.primitivefurnituresales.com

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