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Forum topic by Wendybird posted 02-12-2015 02:45 AM 1326 views 0 times favorited 35 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Wendybird

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02-12-2015 02:45 AM

I bought a ridgid 4512 table saw about 2 weeks ago. Haven’t had the chance to use it yet because my husband broke a bolt on the riving knife. They sent a new one but it was the wrong one. Called back and they are sending a whole riving knife set up. They said if that doesn’t work to just return it. I have been reading a lot of stuff online about alignment issues with the saws and really getting cold feet and thinking of just taking it back. Should I? What saw would you recommend in its place? I’ve seen a few delta on cl in the $900 range. But thats like the top of my budget and would equal no more tools for awhile. I don’t have a whole lot of tools anyways. Someone recommended the makita table saw and I’ve been considering it since it’s the same price as my ridgid $530. Opinions?


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TheFridge

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#1 posted 02-12-2015 02:58 AM

I’d but the new delta hybrid if faced with that choice, but $950 should get you a decent unisaw. Though you prob wouldn’t have to buy another saw.

I would not get a makita. Just me.

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#2 posted 02-12-2015 03:10 AM

For $900 you can get a really nice cabinet saw if you look around for a used one. If your going for something comparable to the rigid, it’s a good choice. The delta that fridge mentioned is also a pretty good option. (This is all from what I read and heard from people who have owned them, I’ve never owned a newer table saw)

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jacquesr

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#3 posted 02-12-2015 03:34 AM

For 500-600$ get the Delta 36-725 at Lowes. Very good product. Very limited issue.
The Ridgid is a bag of hurt (check on this site…). Hassle, but it’s worth it.

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bonesbr549

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#4 posted 02-12-2015 04:01 AM

If you can’t do 220v, then the Griz hybrid is in your limit and would be a decent saw. My recommendation would be to watch craigs list and get a used cabinet saw. You could definately get one in that budget.

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retfr8flyr

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#5 posted 02-12-2015 04:57 AM

I am not a fan of the 4512 due to all the issues with it. I would get the Delta from Loews. This saw seems to be a very nice piece, it has a good fence and no one seems to have any problems with it. The problem with buying an older used saw, is they usually lack the modern safety features, like a riving knife.

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#6 posted 02-12-2015 11:24 AM

I would not swap a full size stationary saw with a cast iron top and belt drive induction motor for a portable jobsite saw unless absolutely necessary. You’d be giving up quite a few advantages. The Makita is a decent example of a portable jobsite saw, but it’s not in the league of a decent full size stationary saw. If portability was a necessity, I doubt you would bought the R4512 in the first place.

The odds are in your favor with the recent R4512s. The part on the riving knife is an easy fix. I’d check for the trunnion issue before you do anything. Ultimately, if you’re not comfortable or happy with the R4512, return it…the Delta 36-725 is viable candidate in the same price range, as are the Steel City 35990 and Grizzly hybrids for more money.

This info might help your thought process. The ABCs of Table Saws

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Wendybird

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#7 posted 02-13-2015 07:10 PM

I’m starting to lean towards this one: http://m.lowes.com/pd/DELTA-15-Amp-10-in-Table-Saw/50247159
I’m a little scared of buying a used saw because this will be my first table saw and I don’t know much about them at all. Plus I gotta fit the thing in my jeep.
But I can’t exactly tell the difference in the delta I posted and the delta for $600 or the ones that are more. Can someone tell me what’s different?

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Wendybird

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#8 posted 02-13-2015 07:41 PM

Now reading reviews on that one makes me think twice. I feel like all these contractor saws get a bad wrap. If they all bad might as well keep my cheaper bad ridgid…. :/

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jacquesr

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#9 posted 02-13-2015 08:02 PM

You will be very happy with the 36-725. I really love mine. It’s a “real” saw.
No real issue, and assembly is not complicated, especially with all the videos on the web…
Plus lots of support on this site.
Was my very first saw too.
Avoid the Ridgid.

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skcj213

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#10 posted 02-13-2015 08:11 PM

I have had an R4512 for going on 2 years. It does have the blade shift issue. When I raise the blade the black of the blade will visibly move out of alignment. However, after raising the blade to the elevation you want all you have to do is turn the elevation adjustment the opposite direction about 1/4 turn to take the pressure off the trunion and the blade goes right back to where it is supposed to be. Other than that I have had zero issues. Is it perfect, no, but overall I am very pleased. I used a HF 20% off coupon and got the saw for around $450. I could not have bought a comparable saw for that kind of money.

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knotscott

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#11 posted 02-13-2015 08:33 PM


I have had an R4512 for going on 2 years. It does have the blade shift issue. When I raise the blade the black of the blade will visibly move out of alignment. However, after raising the blade to the elevation you want all you have to do is turn the elevation adjustment the opposite direction about 1/4 turn to take the pressure off the trunion and the blade goes right back to where it is supposed to be….
- skcj213

If only that corrected the problem with all them, there’d be much less consternation about the R4512, but unfortunately most of the sick ones can’t be corrected without a trunnion replacement.

Wendybird – The Delta 36-5000 and 36-725 are pretty similar as best I can tell. The 36-5000 has pretty much the same fence, but the front rail is one piece vs two pieces on the 36-725. The 36-5000 also has a 15 amp motor vs 13 amp, and a small extension table. Both of those features are steps in the right direction, but if that’s all there is, I sure don’t see anything making the 36-5000 worth the $300 price premium. I’d expect solid cast iron wings added to the mix to justify that price. In the $900 range, I’d be leaning toward a Grizzly G0715P with a full enclosure, 2hp motor, solid cast wings, and arguably a better fence….$925 delivered (check the 120v requirements).



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Wendybird

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#12 posted 02-13-2015 11:48 PM

That grizzly seems very nice. I watched the videos on it and I like the dust collection a lot, the way you can open the door to the saw, and the ease of removing the blade guard and riving knife. Any input on it? http://www.grizzly.com/products/10-Hybrid-Table-Saw-with-Riving-Knife-Polar-Bear-Series/G0715P

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toolie

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#13 posted 02-14-2015 05:55 PM

doesn’t the 715 allegedly also have the blade shift issue, like the much maligned r4512?

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knotscott

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#14 posted 02-14-2015 06:01 PM


doesn t the 715 allegedly also have the blade shift issue, like the much maligned r4512?

- toolie

It did, but Grizzly claims to have remedied it, and I haven’t read of any issues in about a year.

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toolie

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#15 posted 02-14-2015 06:28 PM

if that’s true, then the 715 is a nice saw. when i visited the muncy PA warehouse, it looked like a really nice little unit with a good strong fence. and there’s probably very little in a hobbyist’s shop that 2 hp, the right blade,proper alignment and appropriate feed rate won’t handle.

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