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02-09-2015 04:26 PM

Topic tags/keywords: craftsman table saw used

Hello, I’m a new member here. I know this has been probably beat to near death on this forum, but there’s a used Craftsman table saw for sale on Craigslist near me for $100. The complete model number is 113.298032. It appears to be (from the photos) to be in pretty good condition. I owned a 113.xxxxxx years ago and it was very accurate. Are the savings and Craftsman reliability enough to consider this one or should I just break down and get a new Delta or Ridgid with all the newer safety features.

Thanks for the help.
Tony


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#1 posted 02-09-2015 04:40 PM

Go w/ the Craftsman for $100, by far a better value if it is in good shape, plan on upgrading the rip fence.

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#2 posted 02-09-2015 04:45 PM

Many of us have, or had (as in my case) this saw. It’s a workhorse. It does not have a riving knife, the guard gets in the way of many cuts, and isn’t very easy to get on and off. So, if those things are important to you, consider a newer model. But bang for the buck is much better with these models. You probably will want to upgrade the fence, which may cost you more than the saw. Some folks find that changing the belt to a link belt, and sometimes upgrading the pulleys makes the saw run smoother. We all add ZCIs. You can add the PALS kit to this model, which does make it easier to align, but I never had the need.

I went from that saw to a SawStop, because the safety issues really do matter to me (and my wife), but I never thought my 113 was holding me back.

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#3 posted 02-09-2015 05:00 PM

The motor is worth close to the $100 asking price, so it’s hard to lose money on it, but the fence on the 113.298032 isn’t nearly as good as the Delta’s. On the plus side, the fence can be upgraded down the road (~ $200 for a Delta T2 fence), and you’ll still be into it for less than or close to $300. The new Delta already has a decent fence, a riving knife, warranty, and an enclosed motor, so it’s not without some merit….are those features worth between 2x and 5x the price of the Craftsman to you?

The end performance of either saw will come down to good alignment and blade selection.

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#4 posted 02-09-2015 05:51 PM

I picked up a used 113 from the sixties a couple years ago for $50.00. After disassembling, cleaning, reassembling, aligning and adjusting, I added a Shop Fox T-square fence. I am completely happy with it. It doesn’t have any of the safety features you’ll find on the new ones but I learned to use these tools back in the day before all that. I am comfortable using it without them. I can’t see any reason other than this saw breaking down to replace it. It works well for me and I can put the money I would have spent on a new saw into other tools I need.

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#5 posted 02-09-2015 07:50 PM

What makes the old craftsman fences so terrible? I’ve never used one myself. Is it because they move and go out of alignment? If so, would it not be important to immediately upgrade the fence to a T2 or Shop Fox since there is no riving knife?

Even with an immediate fence upgrade, the price would still be good.

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#6 posted 02-09-2015 08:38 PM


What makes the old craftsman fences so terrible?
- Dan658

It’s just not a very good design, making them difficult to work with. They can work, and can be made parallel to the blade, but are a hassle to use in comparison to a modern Biese type fence. Repeatability is poor, and you need to measure front and back for just about every cut.

The later fences on the Craftsman contractor saws were pretty decent:

But these are cumbersome IME….note how narrow the width of the head of t-square is and how skinnty the rails are.

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#7 posted 02-09-2015 09:35 PM

I have had a 113 saw for a long time.
It certainly is capable for the money but is lacking in the fence, safety and power.
I upgraded my fence to a Delta T2 ($190) and it has made a huge difference.
I can concur that the original fence is junk.
But I am reluctant to put more money into the saw because there is no way to add the safety features I want.
I will probably upgrade eventually to some kind of Delta or Grizzly saw.

-- Joel, Encinitas, CA

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#8 posted 02-09-2015 10:49 PM

Well I missed out. I guess I should have gone with my intuition and bought the saw. The saw didn’t last one day on CL. Thanks for everyone who replied.

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#9 posted 02-09-2015 10:53 PM


I have had a 113 saw for a long time.
...But I am reluctant to put more money into the saw because there is no way to add the safety features I want.
I will probably upgrade eventually to some kind of Delta or Grizzly saw.

- Joel_B

Far be it from me to talk a guy out a table saw upgrade, and I won’t, but you can add an effective aftermarket splitter to that saw. The Microjig is affordable and effective. Sharkguard is another excellent option, but more expensive for sure. You could also pretty easily make a fixed splitter. A true riving knife is a better mouse trap in most regards, but both are able to perform the task at hand….

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#10 posted 02-09-2015 11:04 PM


Well I missed out. I guess I should have gone with my intuition and bought the saw. The saw didn t last one day on CL. Thanks for everyone who replied.

OWWM Rule No. 5: In the time between finding a machine and asking others if you should buy it someone else will come to the proper conclusion.

Cheers,
Brad

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