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Forum topic by LeeMills posted 02-09-2015 04:25 PM 1171 views 1 time favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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LeeMills

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02-09-2015 04:25 PM

For newer folks harvesting their own blanks this shows some of the ways to cut the blanks from a log.
While not exhaustive it does give a good start on grain patterns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8kCjtLUqzY#t=179

-- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein


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#1 posted 02-09-2015 09:12 PM

Yeah, currently discussing this video over at WoodNet.

Pretty cool video!

-- Bill

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#2 posted 02-10-2015 12:36 AM

Ok, I watched it. What struck me the most was when explaining how to mount the burl onto a face plate, he used drywall screws. I’ve used them for just about everything except on a lathe. What he should have said was, “I use a Chuck Plate”. There’s no fuss mounting just about anything on a face plate.
Was that Ron Campbell at the end of the video?? Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson)

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#3 posted 02-10-2015 01:01 AM

... he used drywall screws.

‘Nuff said! The ‘Chuck Plate’ would be a lot safer.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#4 posted 02-10-2015 02:56 PM

Jerry think it is your duty to let Ralph and or geekgroup.org know there is a better way and you have the answer. Everyone knows drywall screws too brittle to use in woodturning but many folks use them except me and you of course. Your Chuck Plate will solve their problem.

Have no idea on how to contact Ralph but no problem contacting them geeks. Heck you can become a geek for free!

http://thegeekgroup.org/

-- Bill

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#5 posted 02-10-2015 03:03 PM

I may be unfair to that presenter, but as soon as he recommended using drywall screws, I killed the video and discounted everything else he said. They are brittle, they break, they are unsafe. I’m surprised any experienced woodturner would recommend using them.

-- Grant Wilkinson, Ottawa ON

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#6 posted 02-10-2015 04:08 PM

Grant is right. There are too many other creative ways to get hurt in the shop without doing something dumb like using drywall screws.

-- Member Valley Woodturners Ottawa

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#7 posted 02-10-2015 07:41 PM

Ok Bill, I looked at the Geek page, and don’t like their lifestyle statistics. You can call me whatever you like for that, but everyone has an opinion.
Here is a picture of what Ralph should have used to mount his burl and everything else he showed.

I’ll ask again, was that Ron Campbell at the end of the video? Does anyone know? ........ Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson)

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#8 posted 02-10-2015 08:59 PM

I agree with you guys that sheetrock screws should not be used (I never have). I just ASSUMED everyone would know not to use them and disregard that part but maybe not. There are very few videos in which I do not disregard at least some items, this includes Bill Grumbine, Lyle Jamieson,... almost everyone. However, the goods points vastly outweigh the few bad ones with them.

-- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

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#9 posted 02-11-2015 11:37 AM

Jerry, until today thought Geek Group a bunch of woodturners. Not sure how feel about that organization thumbing through the web site. Only person recognized there is Lisa Bokt.

I have seen Lisa Bokt from Geeks with Ron Campbell in a hollowing video online and she’d motivated. She has filmed a lot of videos involving woodturning with CNC lathes and posted them on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXQV8pcVvAU

Since only have Ralph’s word about using drywall screws and did not actual see the deed what’s your beef? His demo was about wood grain orientation and expectations not woodturning & safety.

Like said over at woodnet.com, have avoided turning any kind of pine for more than twenty years. Then an opportunity came along for bunch of the stuff. Posted some rough outs in my blog here. Guess can thank Ralph’s video which seen some time back.

-- Bill

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#10 posted 02-11-2015 02:20 PM

Bill, the only beef is that there are noobies that don’t know not to use the screws. If they hear from a demo’er that he/she is using them, then they, (noobie), in turn use them until they discover it’s not a good idea. If an unsafe idea or condition can be pointed out in a comment section, then by all means, make it known.
So, I guess that was Ron Campbell at the end of the video…... Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson)

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#11 posted 02-12-2015 12:09 PM

Hocky pocky Jerry, “if frogs had wings would not bump their ass every time they hop! “

If actually demonstrated using drywall screws and washers during the video naysayer comments here would have legitimate bitch! No doubt in my mind folks in the audience would have questioned the use of drywall screws verus sheet metal screw if watched Ralph during set up and preparing to turn that burl.

There are many woodturning instructors around today that never used faceplates let alone teach how to use them. How many new woodturners you know want to fool with faceplates? Normally soon after getting lathe and tools it’s time for a lathe chuck. Lot of that might be due to cost of faceplates today too!

So no worries!

-- Bill

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#12 posted 02-12-2015 12:39 PM

comon guys, there is some good information there! to discount everything else because of one item that you feel is wrong is just ignorant. In the turnings that he was demonstrating the cuts were pretty light and not run up to normal speed for something of that size or the whole thing would have blown up. maybe he could have gone into why he doesn’t have trouble with drywall screws and why others do. I have used drywall screws and had no trouble I know and understand their potential and prepare accordingly personally I have not had one break and I am not new to the game. Man some of you can get all up in yourselves and critical!

Jerry I have seen your faceplate in other posts. Great idea!

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