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Rogermag

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02-09-2015 04:19 PM

Topic tags/keywords: kitchen cabinets prices custom

Hi, I have a business carpentry and joinery in South Texas, I am dedicated to making kitchen cabinets for hotels and apartments, recently asked me to do a job of making 50 kitchens, apartments in Austin Texas, and another project in the city of Dallas Texas, but I’d like someone to support me with prices that are handled in those cities, as the price that we carry in the Valley of Texas, seems very different.


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AlaskaGuy

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#1 posted 02-09-2015 08:15 PM

What does “support me with prices mean”?

You don’t give much information, be more specific with your questions.

Are they asking for a bid?

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Rogermag

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#2 posted 02-09-2015 08:26 PM

Yes they are asking for a bid, and I need the prices for that cities, if is for linear foot or something, here in the valley is cheapest

Thank you

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#3 posted 02-09-2015 09:53 PM

I guess my first thought is that if you are going to build them you should know what they cost then add the transportation to Austin and Dallas.
Factor in the travel time and hotels etc, if you will do the install work for 50 kitchens.

If you are supplying cabinets – there is a lot of competition.

Especially if they are going into rental units, as most contractors arent going to go with custom cabinets ($$) in a 50 unit apartment building.

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#4 posted 02-09-2015 11:10 PM

What kind of wood?
Door style?
Construction, Frame or Frame less?
Finish? Clear-Stain- Paint?
Install?

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Rogermag

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#5 posted 02-09-2015 11:38 PM

The frame and all construction is poplar, the finish is paint, and we are going to install

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Rick Bailey

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#6 posted 02-09-2015 11:54 PM

340.00 Lf
With out install.
Now this is pricing in No Cal.

[ ] Ext Wood: Paint Grade
[ ] Door Style: Shaker
[ ] Cabinet Const: FACE FRAME
[ ] Overlay: 1” Spacing
[ ] Hinge Type: Soft Close
[ ] Pulls: Not Included
[ ] Int. Material: PF Plywood
[ ] Drawer Face: Solid
[ ] Drawer : Dowel Ply Soft Close
[ ] Finished Ends: Flat
[ ] Finish: Paint
[ ] Bullnose: 1/8’‘
[ ] Installation: NIC

Sales Person: Rick Bailey
Date: 2/9/2015

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Rogermag

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#7 posted 02-10-2015 12:16 AM

One more cuestion, the price you are telling me is for volume? For the 50 apartments? Or should I give a lower price?

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#8 posted 02-10-2015 12:51 AM



Hi, I have a business carpentry and joinery in South Texas, I am dedicated to making kitchen cabinets for hotels and apartments, recently asked me to do a job of making 50 kitchens, apartments in Austin Texas, and another project in the city of Dallas Texas, but I d like someone to support me with prices that are handled in those cities, as the price that we carry in the Valley of Texas, seems very different.

- Rogermag

Of all the long sentences I have read, that is one of them. Your inventory of periods and paragraph breaks is running low. Not good for business. :-)

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Rick Bailey

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#9 posted 02-10-2015 01:16 AM



One more cuestion, the price you are telling me is for volume? For the 50 apartments? Or should I give a lower price?

- Rogermag

Well I think you need to answer that question,Can you afford to?
What are there specs? What are they expecting?
Tell me how you build, Slides – hinges-finish.
I may do things way different than you.
Rick

-- I'll bulid your dream,you tear it down.

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#10 posted 06-26-2015 10:17 AM

To cut to the chase, If you need to come on here and ask us to price your work without looking at any type of specks or knowing the market in your area I would not take the job. I see to many red flags already. Sounds like you’re going to lose money. How much experience do you have in the commercial cabinet industry?

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#11 posted 06-26-2015 10:36 AM

How could i visit your site and see the prices?

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ric53

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#12 posted 06-26-2015 12:04 PM

I agree with all of the above with one more addition. Do you have the space to build and store that big of an inventory. You not only need space to store your raw materials but space to keep you cabinets until you deliver/install them. If you are installing at the same time you are building them who is in the shop and who is in the field. Sounds like a losing battle, one that I would likely walk away from. You have to remember that owners/investors want a quick turn around and the next question is “can you make their deadline. Lots of things to think about before you even submit a quote.

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BinghamtonEd

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#13 posted 06-26-2015 12:27 PM



One more cuestion, the price you are telling me is for volume? For the 50 apartments? Or should I give a lower price?

- Rogermag

Seems kind of odd to me that a professional cabinetmaker signs up on a woodworking site just to ask how to price cabinets. Someone else’s price is not your price. Someone else may have different tools, construction methods, overhead/material costs, and profit margin. If you’re seriously asking these questions I think you need to take a step back and take a good look at how you price your items. It does not sound like you have a very detailed pricing structure.

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SirIrb

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#14 posted 06-26-2015 12:35 PM

I +1 this with no hate-throwing intended.
If I have a CNC saw that I just plug digits into and it cuts the wood quite quick or if I have a Crapsman with a piece of oak and 2 C-Clamps for a fence, production will differ a bit.

Is it a production shop? Do you have the labor? If you expect to hire the labor IF you get the contract you are already lost. From my time int he shop and my time on LJ, it seems that labor is hard to come by. Good labor is like hens teeth and frog hair. You may be the mentor for Norm but if you dont have labor and good labor you are lost and out of money from the get-go.

I would suggest starting in local residential cabinetry and after a few hard years of money making, making sure you know how much it costs to make even the smallest thing in the shop, then entertain commercial, large production projects.

In summary: Run, dont walk, away from this until you know you.

One more cuestion, the price you are telling me is for volume? For the 50 apartments? Or should I give a lower price?

- Rogermag

Seems kind of odd to me that a professional cabinetmaker signs up on a woodworking site just to ask how to price cabinets. Someone else s price is not your price. Someone else may have different tools, construction methods, overhead/material costs, and profit margin. If you re seriously asking these questions I think you need to take a step back and take a good look at how you price your items. It does not sound like you have a very detailed pricing structure.

- BinghamtonEd


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Daruc

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#15 posted 06-26-2015 01:26 PM

I think most of you have missed it.
He may or may not be able to produce the work.
He is smart enough to know pricing differs in different parts of the world.
The method/tools for producing the work doesn’t have an impact on how much you can charge, only on how much work one shop would do compared to another.

The shop with the fancy CNC is not going to charge any less. They may make a better profit margin and may be able to negotiate lower pricing if they have to, but it’s all about Market Price. Maybe his prices are cheaper than in the city he wants to do the work and he doesn’t want to leave any money on the table. You have to be able to determine if you can do the work at market price and make a profit or not no matter what tools you have.

I can’t help with pricing, but last time I quoted some apartments they wanted to pay less than 1000 bucks per unit.
As far as quantity pricing, you have to look at the overall job as 1 big job, not 50 units.

Good Luck,
Don’t let the hobbyist crap on your dreams.

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