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02-06-2015 08:37 PM

Hi I live in a big house over one hundred years old over looking the holy loch. It has avery large front door WIDE that is.There used to be a draught—rain extruder fitted in two parts .One to the bottom of the door and another to the floor beneath it to marry up when closed .I bought one a time back then in a moment of weakness gave it to my cousin for my aunt to use.I don’t relish the idea however of removing the door with a number of hundred years ,plus old screws plus it will be a heavy beast to deal with.Although I will get help.There has been a lot of improvements in these design wise, can anyone show me the best type to buy or make if easier.I actually will have to wait for you to advise.I would like it done correctly though as currently I have about a one inch gap under the door brrr chilly willy or what? Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease


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#1 posted 02-06-2015 08:56 PM

hi alistair

having bumped into many similar door problems
(that i had to fix from others work)

i go with an adjustable height threshold type now when possible
with a replaceable rubber in the threshold itself
rather than the door bottom
that is hard to work on
here is the type i go with
it is alum. and does add a ‘bump at the door entrance
but can be adjusted to door discrepancies for taper or waviness

look around that site
there should be one from oak there too

hope this helps

with 1” gap
i’m surprised ‘nellie’ hasn’t swum in when it rains

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#2 posted 02-06-2015 09:03 PM

Surface-mounted, drop-bottom door seal. Worked for me!

http://www.draftproofing.com/drop-down-door-bottom-seals.html

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#3 posted 02-06-2015 09:18 PM

Hello Alistair, sorry to hear about your gap at the front door. Some pictures of your door would be nice. I do hope you can stay warm.

John that looks interesting. I looked at the link, wish they had post some price$. John have you used any of their products? I have a similar problem to Alistair except I’m dealing with a curved dip in the concrete foundation at the door threshold. Luckily it’s not the front door, but the garage/laundry room door.

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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#4 posted 02-06-2015 09:43 PM

Darrell: There’s nothing special about that drop door seal. I got mine at Home Depot for something around $15.

Have you considered filling your dip with concrete patch? Another Home Depot product, so it’s one-stop shopping. :)

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#5 posted 02-06-2015 09:51 PM

seeing johns seal
i remember a client bought one once
the problem as darrell questions
is what i ran into with it
it dropped down
and hit the two highest spots on a ruddy tile floor
and stopped right there
the draft continued under it in the low spots

in conjunction with a straight type runner or threshold
it would make an excellent seal

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#6 posted 02-06-2015 09:55 PM

Hi, Alistair,

A lady I know has something like this, and it works pretty well.

http://www.amazon.com/Twin-Draft-Guard-Extreme-Door/dp/B003ZSWER6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1423259479&sr=8-3&keywords=under+door+draft+seal

Hope that helps.

-- Mistakes are what pave the road to perfection

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#7 posted 02-06-2015 10:34 PM

And if all else fails … :-)

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#8 posted 02-06-2015 10:35 PM

Thanks John.

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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#9 posted 02-06-2015 10:48 PM

You’re welcome, Darrell. :-)

I’ve seen sleeping cat and dog draft stoppers before, so I did a search and this showed up. I must be out of the loop because a row of cats seems to be the NEXT BIG THING. You can even buy patterns and/or kits.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#10 posted 02-06-2015 10:51 PM



Hi I live in a big house over one hundred years old over looking the holy loch. It has avery large front door WIDE that is.There used to be a draught—rain extruder fitted in two parts .One to the bottom of the door and another to the floor beneath it to marry up when closed .I bought one a time back then in a moment of weakness gave it to my cousin for my aunt to use.I don t relish the idea however of removing the door with a number of hundred years ,plus old screws plus it will be a heavy beast to deal with.Although I will get help.There has been a lot of improvements in these design wise, can anyone show me the best type to buy or make if easier.I actually will have to wait for you to advise.I would like it done correctly though as currently I have about a one inch gap under the door brrr chilly willy or what? Alistair

- SCOTSMAN



hi alistair

having bumped into many similar door problems
(that i had to fix from others work)

i go with an adjustable height threshold type now when possible
with a replaceable rubber in the threshold itself
rather than the door bottom
that is hard to work on
here is the type i go with
it is alum. and does add a bump at the door entrance
but can be adjusted to door discrepancies for taper or waviness

look around that site
there should be one from oak there too

hope this helps

with 1” gap
i m surprised nellie hasn t swum in when it rains

- patron

This sure looks like it will fit a 1 inch gap great.

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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kaerlighedsbamsen

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#11 posted 02-06-2015 11:00 PM

Around here this- type is often used. Works well with larger gaps and uneven surfaces. Perhaps a way to go?

-- "Do or Do not. There is no try." - Yoda

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#12 posted 02-06-2015 11:15 PM

We just use snakes in Australia.

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#13 posted 02-06-2015 11:57 PM

I used that brush thing that Kaer mentioned and it worked great. Home Depot too.

-- Dave, New England - “We are made to persist. that's how we find out who we are.” ― Tobias Wolff

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#14 posted 02-07-2015 07:22 PM

Hi Alistair,

These are the ones I have fitted in the past. They are great, and can be fitted without removing the door. They seal well and keep out drafts and water if fitted correctly.

This is the link from their site

Hope this is of help to you Alistair,

Garry

-- Garry fae Bonnie Scotland - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Garry-Macdonald-Woodwork/425518554215355?ref=hl

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#15 posted 02-07-2015 08:34 PM

Scotsman,
Most older style hinges can separate unless the pins are press fit. You can pop them out with a hammer and adrift pin or 16d spike with a filed tip. If rusted, (make squeaky noise when operated) spray with WD40 and wait.

All draft options eventually fail due to age, weather and friction and or the door wracks out of square and rubs the crap out of the threshold or jamb. The more diverse and extreme the weather conditions are the sooner the fail.

I’m guessing you have an oak, teak or mahogany threshold, anything softer would have rotted or split long ago? Excluding surface wear does it flex and or sink when stepped on? If so the kick can be removed and the threshold can be shimmed from below.

The effectiveness of any bottom rail sweep depends on the gap when closed. Flat rubber strips tend to remain in the pulled position and leak from the sides when the door is closed. The flexible rubber tubing type do a decent job, but what makes them work well also makes them wear out sooner.

If you have a wear dip in a wooden threshold there isn’t a product I’m aware of that has any hang time, the threshold is not a static item and they need constant maintenance. Linseed oil every couple yrs keep them happy and supple. If it has cracks or splits you should consider replacing it, if so all the rain, dirt and snow is getting under it and affecting the subfloor

-- I meant to do that!

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