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Forum topic by Rj posted 04-22-2009 06:28 PM 1264 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-22-2009 06:28 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tip question

This is in response to the Oil artical I posted yesterday .

First off let me say SORRY FOR POSTING IT!!!!!! I fully regret it now . (ND2ELK don’t feel bad! it in turn was my decsion to post it)

I Feel as though a few of my fellow LJS SHOT the messenger ?
I know Nothing about the Oil industry or its Politics (I’m kind of glad too) and I think most of you don’t really know either (whats really going on that is).
When I was sent this artical I found it interesting and passed it on to a few friends they in turn stated I should post it so I did ,MY mistake!!!!
I’m somewhat disappointed in the way a few people responded to this and any other topic they might Not agree with!
How about trying this insted of letting and Artical or Posting get you angry or uptight( Lifes Tooo Short), think about how you want to approach the person and others who read what you have to say!
Approach it in the understanding the person and other people might not know what you know!
Try being diplomactic and understanding = People will listen- they still might not agree but at least you gave it your best shot

Theres no need to be sarcastic or spiteful =no one will listen to that and it will only make you look bad.

My Mother always said Don’t wear your emotions on your sleeve And my Dad always said Opinions are like Bleep Bleep and everyones got one!!!!

I noticed some LJS comment on alot…. but don’t have any( or very few) Projects posted… How about commenting less and doing more WoodWorking !!!! Just a thought!!!

-- Rj's Woodworks,San Jose & Weed Ca,

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Tim Pursell

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#1 posted 04-22-2009 06:40 PM

Don’t feel bad about posting the story. A “spirited” discussion can only help inform people. If nobody ever talks about things that affect us, those things will be left in the hands that control the purse strings.
Talk is good!


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#2 posted 04-22-2009 06:43 PM

Amen to that . . . . I got a lot of flack on a posting I made yesterday and some of the most prolific and vocal posters seem to not have any other life other than commenting on what their opinions are on a variety of subjects . . . but they don’t seem to offer much in the way of “LumberJock” material. Go figure.

At least your posting didn’t get deleted by the site moderator! (YET?)

-- Bradley Miller, Blue Springs, MO -

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Francisco Luna

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#3 posted 04-22-2009 06:43 PM

well said!......more REAL woodworking, less Bleep Bleep

-- Nature is my manifestation of God. I go to nature every day for inspiration in the day's work. I follow in building the principles which nature has used in its domain" Frank Lloyd Wright

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Gene Howe

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#4 posted 04-22-2009 06:51 PM

Points taken.
Headed to the shop.
Stay tuned for pics.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#5 posted 04-22-2009 07:44 PM

I just got a new spiff camera so hopefully more projects from me will be coming soon… and I REALLY need to update my shop pictures…. it looks nothing like that now LOL …. I have space room to work whoohooo…...
But then I have been bitten by the pen turning bug and feel silly posting the acrylic pens I have been turning lately or pens at all really…. owell I might have to post those anyway….

But seriously you make a good point…..

-- Hrolfr

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#6 posted 04-22-2009 07:51 PM

It is not wrong for RJ or anyone to post something that could enlighten all of us and make us think. I commend him for his apology, you never would have gotten it from me. I’ve noticed that no one addressed my statements that are all factual, no one commented on alternative viable resources that are available. My favorites on my computer are full of websites that contain just these solutions to alternative power sources, and I myself have thought of new ways to harness natural power. I notice a lot of negative comments but no positive answers, maybe a new forum on how to solve these problems and put our heads together to create such things, we could even discuss what to do with wood wastes that could produce energy. I ran my shop heating system on wood wastes, in a system I built myself, and no, I’m not talking just a wood stove in the corner. If your waiting for your government to take care of you and put your best interests and survival to heart, you’ve got an endless wait. Notice I didn’t say long wait. That should be more than apparent in this and former administrations. RJ, no apology needed or nescessary, you didn’t owe one, but others who were, and are so negative, do owe one.

-- Dan Wiggins

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#7 posted 04-22-2009 08:13 PM

I read your original post but did not comment on it (just didn’t have much to say about it really) , but didn’t really find any of the comments to be “shot at the messenger” ... most were actually very constructive and informative opinions and ideas that just added a bit more substance and context to the information you posted.

I just dont understand why you got so upset about it, I thought it was a good thread… with good responses. not all of them sharing the same mindset as the original article, but yet all were very well thought through.

cheers ;)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#8 posted 04-22-2009 08:31 PM

Point well taken Rj.

I apologize if I offended you. It skipped my mind when I replied that you didn’t write the article.

In my opinion only presenting one-sided truths = politics at its worst. That why I meant to inject some balance to the article. It was the “pass it along” and fear tactic near the end that caught my attention, as the article started off with facts then degenerated into something else. I admit I responded in a similarly poor way.

My comments really were meant for the author since he/she obviously thinks that view is conclusive. Mine is not either, however there needs to be a balance. Again it was my fault for directing it at you and I am sorry for that.

Will heed you advice and WW more and talk less. Well soon as I finish some remodeling, to me the un-fun part of woodworking.

-- Ed

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#9 posted 04-22-2009 09:38 PM

This really didn’t upset me as much as you might think !
This was ment for a couple of people who posted a comment about this topic (Mainly mentioning politics & enviromental= I Believe there should be a happy balance between Man & man and man & nature but some environmentalists & animal activists go too far ? I live in California were we have both and I can tell you extremes in both directions are not good = Ca. has had Alot of fires because environmentalists don’t want to clean up forests ETC. and it is now a BIG problem !!
But what is starting to get on my nerves is the way some people (on other posts) in general start bickering with each other or just complaining… without diplomatic or constructive solutions on topics that are posted everything from Politics to Sexual postings!
I myself thinks its very good to express our thoughts and concerns and to share them, But I wish some people would think about what they have to say and how they’ll express it … or possibly if its worth saying at all (in my experience most likely Not =I hope you notice or look at my past , I don’t normally post my thoughts unless someone is way out of line)
So with that being said Lets start woodworking= be safe enjoy & have fun & Please share your projects & your thoughts !!!

-- Rj's Woodworks,San Jose & Weed Ca,

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#10 posted 04-22-2009 11:39 PM

( How about commenting less and doing more woodworking ? ) LOL, whatever. I wasn’t aware that this is a paying job. When can I expect my first check, I’ve been here awhile, I expect back pay also. So until that happens, it my bussiness what prodjects I want to post, if any, not yours.

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#11 posted 04-23-2009 12:57 AM

lol. Good one, Woodchuck. RJ I’m sorry you feel bad about your posting, but you need to think about what your posting. When your post has a comment like Because the environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to help America become independent of foreign oil!you instantly cause trouble whether you tried to or not. Some will defend and others will attack. Also I’m one of those Lumberjocks that has lots of comments but one project. I have a full time job and not a lot of money and time for hobbies, but I like to be a part of this site. The Coffee Lounge is for discussing anything not just woodworking so you didn’t do anything wrong by posting that. Have fun and be safe. :)

-- Don't tell her I'm in the shop!

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