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Keith Kelly

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01-30-2015 04:32 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane

I bought 4 hand planes from a garage sale, at $1 to $2 each. None were in great condition, but all look restorable for usage in my shop. This is one of them.

The others were Stanleys and all appear to be early 1900’s range.
  • #4 dated 1910
  • #103 (edit: ?) (undated) (edit: #110!) (edit: ?)
  • #51 Spokeshave

However, I cannot seem to identify this one, or find any planes that look anything like it. Do any of you have ideas?

PS: I’m a hand plane n00b.

-- Keith - Bolivar, Missouri, http://www.SquareOneWoodworks.com


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#1 posted 01-30-2015 04:36 PM

I don’t know what it is but I like it! My shot in the dark is a Birmingham. Are there any markings on the iron?

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#2 posted 01-30-2015 04:36 PM

It’s a block plane and I can make out U.S.A. on the back end.

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#3 posted 01-30-2015 04:38 PM

Haven’t seen one quite like that before. Can you provide any more information? Length, width, any markings on the blade. Looks like something is cast into the bed at the rear, what does that say?

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#4 posted 01-30-2015 05:03 PM

Here are more markings. On the heel it says “Made in USA” and on one of the sides, it says ”$1”.

Width: 2”, Length: 6.5”. Blade width: 1 5/8”

Here are more pictures, as well as a pic of the plane with its brothers & sisters from the garage sale.

-- Keith - Bolivar, Missouri, http://www.SquareOneWoodworks.com

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#5 posted 01-30-2015 05:13 PM

I’m pretty good with internet research, and I own a bunch of old planes, but this one has me stumped. I’m guessing it’s a design that wasn’t around very long.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#6 posted 01-30-2015 05:16 PM



Here are more markings. On the heel it says “Made in USA” and on one of the sides, it says ”$1”.

- keith204

^ lawl at the “on one of the sides, it says $1”

:-)

It’s a cool block. Looks like the cap was a pretty rough casting. Have no idea who made it, good find for a buck though!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#7 posted 01-30-2015 05:16 PM

From what I can see of it, that #4 looks like a steal for $2.00!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#8 posted 01-30-2015 05:25 PM

With this design, it doesn’t seem like there’s much leverage to keep the iron anchored down in place. The screw is small, and the cap iron doesn’t seem to have enough length to do provide much leverage.


From what I can see of it, that #4 looks like a steal for $2.00!

- CharlieM1958

Yeah, it does. The tote is pretty rough, broken, wobbly, and hacked (looks like somebody tried to drill out the screw, and failed, so they just used epoxy everywhere). But that can be made anew. I already printed out the template from Lee Valley, and ordered the replacement screws. The cap iron has a chip in it, but won’t affect common usage. The sole is really fairly flat. It’s actually quite a bit flatter than a brand new Stanley block plane I “restored” a couple weeks ago.

-- Keith - Bolivar, Missouri, http://www.SquareOneWoodworks.com

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#9 posted 01-31-2015 02:11 PM

that block plane is interesting. I don’t think its something I’ve ever seen.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#10 posted 01-31-2015 10:41 PM

could be a Frankenstein.this block plane body, that knob,etc.

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#11 posted 02-01-2015 01:00 AM

I think it may be a Millers Falls from the finger dimple on the front…

-- "I cut it twice and it's still too short"

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#12 posted 02-01-2015 05:37 PM

There was one like it in the local antique mall recently. It had no other markings to help with identification but it was intriging to look at. I found the placement of the knob quite unique. Hopefully someone will come up with ID.

-- Brent

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#13 posted 02-01-2015 09:30 PM

your plane is a Knapp Iron Block Plane, manufactured by A. Lawson in Shelton CT 1945-50 for Belknap Hardware Co, reference vol 2 PTMPIA page 306

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#14 posted 02-01-2015 10:38 PM



your plane is a Knapp Iron Block Plane, manufactured by A. Lawson in Shelton CT 1945-50 for Belknap Hardware Co, reference vol 2 PTMPIA page 306

- Don W

Alright great!(?) Is there anything in particular you can tell me about it? or do I need to go buy the book? :)

If it’s worth virtually nothing, I’ll restore it for shop use. If it’s worth something, then I’d hate to do that since my hand-plane restoration process may not necessarily be that of a collector.

-- Keith - Bolivar, Missouri, http://www.SquareOneWoodworks.com

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#15 posted 02-01-2015 10:58 PM

I’ve pretty much told you everything in the book. It doesn’t give values, and being it’s for Belknap, I doubt its extremely valuable, but that’s just a guess. Its also on the very last pages of the book, which doesn’t scream value either.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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