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3285jeff

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01-29-2015 10:49 PM

well I did as everyone said and tried again,,lol,,,got a piece of maple,,about 4 in and cut it round and put it on the face plate and stared to try to turn it,,it was about 1 in wide,,got it down to make the tendon,,,,put it on the chuck and started out trying to smooth it,,,,wrong,,never happened,,as a matter of fact all it would do was grab the wood and put that much more fear in me,,,im honestly ashamed to say it,,,but I got mad and turned the handle of the bowl gouge around that hit the piece so hard it broke the handle,,lol,,I guess some has got it and others don’t,,now im scared to even touch it,,lol,,think im going outta business before I hurt myself,,pen turning is a breeze compared to this,,i just thank god I did not get hurt,,,,, im sure its my fault,,but I did the best I could with the skill I have,,lol,,which is none on bowl turning,,im no quitter but I honestly believe that for my safety that is the way to go and I do thank each and everyone for there input on this matter,,you are truly nice people that are very smart and caring and I feel very fortunate to be able to get advice on here when I need it,,,again,,,THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH!!!!!


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#1 posted 01-29-2015 11:23 PM

lol,,my wife told me if others can do it you can,,lol,,I told here she hadn’t lived until something grabs your tool at 1800 rpm,,thats a feeling that you will not forget!!!!

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#2 posted 01-29-2015 11:25 PM

lol,,I told her the only way is if I have a 1in piece of plexiglass between me and the lathe,,,lol

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#3 posted 01-29-2015 11:47 PM

Jeff, I wouldn’t quit. I would just set this aside for now. I would still research as much as I could and be on the look out for someone who does this to show you. I have turned a couple of bowls and lidded boxes. I am not good with a bowl gouge experiencing similar to you. I actually bent one. I am guessing you are catching on the inside. I have used a howling tool due to my lack of skills. I am still trying to master the bowl gouge.

Bill

-- Bill R

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#4 posted 01-30-2015 12:45 AM



lol,,my wife told me if others can do it you can,,lol,,I told here she hadn t lived until something grabs your tool at 1800 rpm,,thats a feeling that you will not forget!!!!

- 3285jeff


Speaking of your tool, would you like to show it????? Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson)

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#5 posted 01-30-2015 01:06 AM

It’s really to bad to hear about your frustration. I just started turn a few ago and love it. I have had some catches but it started practicing on some smaller logs to turn them into spindles first.

Weeks before I even got my lathe I watched tons of videos to learn as much as I could about presenting the tool to the wood. I can use my biwl gouge with more confidence that I now how to angle it during push verses pull cuts. I would say take a breathe and watch videos. Then give it one more patient shot. If you hate it, then bail. No reason to have a hobby that stresses you out. Good luck.

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#6 posted 01-30-2015 01:50 AM

lol,,I love turning too,,but videos are good and there is a lot of good ones,,but its not like you doing it or someone standing beside you telling you what you are doing wrong,,and I agree I have did a lot of things watching you tube,,i have good educated a lot,,but this has put the fear of god in me,,,lol

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#7 posted 01-30-2015 01:51 AM

please excuse me again,,keys are sticking on this keyboard

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#8 posted 01-30-2015 01:55 AM

Smart man

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#9 posted 01-30-2015 02:10 AM

Jeff,
First don’t use hard maple to learn on.
Get some Poplar or Alder or SOFT Maple to work on.

Don’t try to do deep bowls yet until you learn how your tools work.

And lastly, show us the tools you are using.
And don’t give up.

I think you got a lot of things going on that would scare the heck out of anyone starting out.

Rick

-- I'll bulid your dream,you tear it down.

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#10 posted 01-30-2015 02:39 AM

rick this is the tool,, im ashamed to show it,,but its hurricane bowl gouge from amazon,,

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#11 posted 01-30-2015 02:53 AM

Thanks for putting that up.
Now the pros can help you.
I got your PM.
Rick

-- I'll bulid your dream,you tear it down.

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#12 posted 01-30-2015 03:14 AM

I’m not a pro but I have some Hurricane tools and they work well, well as good as my Hamlets, Sorbys, Crowns.

From what I can tell from the picture the end/wing is almost flat/straight. That makes it very easy to catch the corner in the wood. I have watched one video (John Jordan) who uses a similar grind for finishing on the interior but he is a pro (full videos and instructor).
Here is a video by John Lucas on correcting problems grinding a bowl gouge but you can easily see the swept back grind on the wings. If this is the problem you would just slowly work on the wings and not the tip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9G16ylEZHQ

Add: It looks like the catch was bad enough to break the handle? Ouch.

-- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

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#13 posted 01-30-2015 05:17 AM

I have watch videos on the easy way tools and they seem really nice,,,,i was thinking maybe this would help some in this problem if I didn’t have to sharpen them,,and watching the videos,,they seem to do a good job ,,I know they are expensive at first,,but it seems like a cheap price to pay for sharp tools and not need to bother with sharping,,any comments on this,,

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#14 posted 01-30-2015 11:10 AM

I agree that it looks like the one wing is ground almost vertical. That would makes catches really easy. First thing I did to my bowl,gouge (same one) was sweep the tops back a little further just in case. By the way, you can practice your turning by making a new handle for your gouge. Sorry had to say it!

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#15 posted 01-30-2015 11:26 AM

I don’t turn, but my wife does a lot! I help her with a lot of prep work.

I think, for a beginner, you are using too much speed. The formula says divide 6,000 to 9,000 by the diameter, 6,000 being conservative and 9,000 being aggressive. So 1,800×4 inches is 7,200. Right in the middle of the range. As a beginner you may want to consider 6,000/ diameter as the absolute maximum. My wife makes a lot of bowls and pens and rarely goes over 1,500 rpm. Sanding is the only time she cranks it up.

Remember the wood has to have some time to respond to the tool and get out of its way.

Here she is turning some black (maybe yellow) locust deadfall at 230 rpm.

Also, practise on branches not dried wood. It is easier, cheaper, & sometimes you get some amazing spalting. The bark flying off is funny. Dangerous, but funny. You hear a pop as a chunk lets go and a bang when it hits something across the room.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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