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Case101

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01-28-2015 10:21 PM

Does anybody own the chuck that comes in the Grizzly kit T10809 pictured below.

I’m trying to compare that to the H6265 chuck to the above kit.

I called Grizzly and they don’t know if they are the same chuck. Visually they look the same except 1 uses a square key, the other a hex key.

My understanding is that the H6265 is a clone of the Vicmarc VM100 and all the jaws from the vicmarc will fit the Grizzly H6265.

I’m hoping if I get the kit (T10809) that it is also jaw compatible to the vicmarc.

Thanks,

-- John, New Jersey


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#1 posted 01-29-2015 02:25 AM

John,
I just went through the same thing as you.
It’s not the Vicmarc clone.
“http://lumberjocks.com/topics/70449”

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#2 posted 01-29-2015 12:50 PM

Rick,
Thanks for the information, I really like the optional items in the kit, seems to make it a complete solution. I was hoping it was also a clone of the vicmarc chuck to have more jaw options if needed.

The kit is currently out of stock till May, I’m still considering it. Hopefully someone will stop by this thread that has the kit and comment on it.

Thanks,

-- John, New Jersey

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#3 posted 09-16-2015 02:56 PM

John, Just wondering which chuck you bought (and if T10809 is worth considering?)

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#4 posted 09-16-2015 06:35 PM

I’m hoping to buy a chuck in the not too distant future and would also like to know if anybody uses (and likes) this setup. I’v had my eye on the Nova Infinity but this has a lot of “options” included for way less money.

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#5 posted 09-16-2015 07:10 PM

I have the basic chuck (no accessories), and find it to be quite good. Runs true, holds well both internally and externally, and I’d buy it again.
The kit was not available when I bought the lathe and chuck.
I did add an arbor washer (shop made from some plastic material I had) that would keep the chuck from possibly sticking on the arbor.
Price/value was there.
Bill

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#6 posted 09-16-2015 07:17 PM

Thanks Bill. Does all 4 jaws actuate with just turning the one key? Or do you have to adjust them separately. (showing my ignorance here about chucks, but hey, there’s no such thing as a stupid question, right? )

Also is it a big pain to switch jaws and/or accessories? The Nova Infinity looks like it takes about 20 seconds to switch jaws.

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#7 posted 09-16-2015 08:00 PM

If like that T10809 chuck buy it and forget about Vicmarc jaw compatibility. No neither H6265 nor T10809 as refined as a Vicmarc chuck & jaws but not paying Vicmarc prices. Only problem have with T10809 is do not know if upgrade thread adapter down the road, suspect cannot. Same might be said for H6265 although list optional thread adapters in manual not sure can buy them. H6265 has been around for awhile and most folks will tell while not a Vicmarc not bad for the money.

Compare cost of Vicmarc and optional jaws to those above!

Vicmarc 100
http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=packard&Category_Code=lathes-acc-fourjaw-vm-vic100
http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=packard&Category_Code=chuck-fourjaw-vm-vic100jaws

Joe, you have independent 3 & 4-jaw chucks which are a real pain to adjust and operate not really safe. Tommy bar chucks use two bars to open/close, and scroll chucks where all jaws open & close with single handle. Tommy bar & scroll chucks easier to center work & operate.

Have owned & used both tommy bar & scroll chucks and like both of them. Tommy bar chucks normally cost less than scroll chucks but need to be organized. Scroll chucks operate with single key or handle and each manufacturer little different but easier to operate than tommy bars but little more.

Extra jaw set can be both a blessing and a curse. While sound exciting to have choices it is a pain changing jaws. Worst fear is breaking off one of those hex bolts or losing bolts & jaws in the process. Losing hex bolts no big deal most vendors sell extras, but losing jaws big problem have to go back to manufacturer.

I got by with #2 jaw set that came with my chuck for many years. Really need a smaller set of jaws to turn small stuff like finials. Ended up buying a chuck body threaded adapter and set of spigot jaws for the mission. I am a lightweight know woodturners that have 8 or more chucks.

Back in 2014 started a post asking about new inexpensive Grizzly & Hurricane chucks and others and did not get much feed back. Think they deserve a look if in the market for a chuck.

http://www.thewoodturningstore.com/categories/Hurricane-HTC100-4-Chuck-5_7.html

-- Bill

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#8 posted 09-16-2015 09:18 PM


Does all 4 jaws actuate with just turning the one key?

Also is it a big pain to switch jaws and/or accessories? The Nova Infinity looks like it takes about 20 seconds to switch jaws.

- JoeinGa

Yes, yes, and yes. :)

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#9 posted 09-16-2015 09:24 PM

Does all 4 jaws actuate with just turning the one key?

Not all do. Scroll chucks will, but there are 4 jaw chucks that have independently set jaws out there. Many consider them a royal PITA, although they do have their purpose and seem to be more popular on metal lathes than woodturning ones. Their key purpose is to be able to accurately center an irregular shaped work piece, and they can also be used for offset turning to a limited degree.

Cheers,
Brad

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#10 posted 09-16-2015 10:20 PM

To clarify, the Grizzly and Nova woodturning chucks being discussed are self centering.

If you see a stepped jaw chuck like this, those are for metalturning (although occasionally you will see them advertised for woodturning, that is a lie).

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#11 posted 09-17-2015 12:30 AM

Thanks guys.
Rick, I have looked at so many of these chucks that my head is spinning. I started getting worried that I might buy one and find out the jaws move independently. That would REALLY suck if I found out AFTER buying one.

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#12 posted 09-17-2015 02:29 AM

I started getting worried that I might buy one and find out the jaws move independently. That would REALLY suck if I found out AFTER buying one.

If it is a ‘Scroll Chuck’ then it is self-centering.

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Lazyman

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#13 posted 09-25-2015 01:50 AM

I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Grizzly T10809 chuck. It is my first chuck but my first impression is that it is very solid. It’s the perfect size for the small (10”x18”) Excelsior Lathe I picked up from Rockler and with all of the extra jaws it comes with it looked to me to be the best bang for the buck. I haven’t turned anything on the chuck yet but will as soon as I finish making my DIY vari-grind jig so that I can sharpen my the bowl gouges I bought from The Wood Turning Store. I don’t normally like the cheap cases that come with some tools but the one that comes with this chuck set seems to be fairly nice and I will actually use it to keep the sets of jaws together, at least until I decide to make a more compact way to store them. I’ll post more once I have a chance to try them.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#14 posted 09-25-2015 02:00 AM

Thanks Lazyman. Let us know how it does when you get to using it. That and the Nova Infinity are at the top of my current “short list”

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#15 posted 11-07-2015 04:45 AM

I’ve used the chuck a few times and first impressions are good. This is my first chuck so I’d don’t have anything to compare it to but It seems to work pretty well so far. The only probably that I’ve noticed is that sometimes when I am openings or closing the jaws they seem to catch or jam slightly like one of the jaws is out of alignment. Reversing the chuck key seems to fix it and it only seems to happen when it is not yet tightening around a piece of wood. I may take it apart to see if there is a rough spot or other defect causing this. So far, I’ve not had any problems with the chuck loosening or anything else that felt dangerous. One pleasant surprise is that the cheap case that it comes in is actually fairly nice for such a cheap set. It is compact and fairly sturdy and I do like having a way to keep everything together. The case is lined with dense foam with cutouts for each part which also helps you see if you’ve put everything back.
Overall, it’s a good way to get a complete set of jaws for much less and as a beginner this was a good way to try a chuck without spending more on the chuck than I did on my mini lathe. If I do take it apart and find a problem that is causing the jam, I will post again.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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