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Manny_E

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01-28-2015 01:31 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question tablesaw

I am 95% completed putting this brand new TS. I am not sure if this is an issues or not. Basically I have 2 issues.

1- used a dial indicator to see if the blade needs adjustment. At this point, not sure if this is a defect or it just need adjustment. see attach… The dial indicator fluctuate about .007. I am assuming this is not normal and it is a matter of adjustment. Or the factory blade is the problem… I have a short video, but the format is .MOV; site does not allow this format..

See video from
http://youtu.be/SQfv5bfJhOc

2- when it is dropped on its feet (not on casters) it wobbles (like those old restaurant table). I am wondering if anyone has experienced this issue. I am getting ready to disable it and go over the to make sure I have not missed anything.

Thanks in advance

-- Manny-E


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#1 posted 01-28-2015 01:53 AM

Your Youtube video won’t play…. It is a “private” video!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#2 posted 01-28-2015 01:55 AM

.007 out of alignment is an issue that needs to be adjusted. You can spin the blade by hand, the indicator will tell you if the blade is the problem. I would guess that the table is out not the blade.

As for the wobble. The saw is not sitting in a dip or hump in the concrete is it. I would check that first. Garage floors are not flat.

Make sure the saw is unplugged before you put your hands near the blade.

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#3 posted 01-28-2015 02:06 AM

Mark the blade with a magic marker at the areas
where the deviation is most. Take it off and check
the plate for flatness with a straight edge.

The arbor flange can be machined incorrectly. If so,
take the saw back. It’s probably the cheap factory
blade though.

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#4 posted 01-28-2015 02:20 AM


Your Youtube video won t play…. It is a “private” video!!!

- DIYaholic

it is now set to public..

-- Manny-E

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#5 posted 01-28-2015 02:36 AM


.007 out of alignment is an issue that needs to be adjusted. You can spin the blade by hand, the indicator will tell you if the blade is the problem. I would guess that the table is out not the blade.

As for the wobble. The saw is not sitting in a dip or hump in the concrete is it. I would check that first. Garage floors are not flat.

Make sure the saw is unplugged before you put your hands near the blade.

- joey502

any suggestions on how to adjust it? the manual only has basic adjustment tips..

-- Manny-E

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#6 posted 01-28-2015 02:37 AM



Mark the blade with a magic marker at the areas
where the deviation is most. Take it off and check
the plate for flatness with a straight edge.

The arbor flange can be machined incorrectly. If so,
take the saw back. It s probably the cheap factory
blade though.

- Loren

check “the plate” or the blade?

-- Manny-E

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#7 posted 01-28-2015 03:15 AM

here is another video:

http://youtu.be/x6nuktPkbQE

this time with a new blade and the dial indicator is closer to the arbor flange. Hope this gives more info…

I will hate to take it back…

-- Manny-E

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#8 posted 01-28-2015 03:18 AM

here is another video:

http://youtu.be/x6nuktPkbQE

this time with a new blade and the dial indicator is closer to the arbor flange. Hope this gives more info…

I will hate to take it back…

-- Manny-E

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#9 posted 01-28-2015 03:18 AM

First off… Welcome to being an owner of a Ridgid R4512 Table saw. It really is here to test your patients and how much crap you will put up with. I have the exact same saw.

Second: you need to ditch the factory blade and get a good quality blade.

Third: Do your measurements (with a MIC) as to if the high quality blade is parallel to the MITER SLOT

Forth: if it is not parallel… And There is a 50-50 chance it will NOT BE…. You have to decide if it is worth taking it’s ASSEMBLED over 250 pound bulk back for a refund and try again

Fifthly: If you decide to stick with it, you got some work on your hands…....

DO NOT BY ANY MEANS buy the PALS alignment KIT!!!!! IT WILL NOT FIT your saw! Even if it does say for the R4512!!!! The PALS for the R4512 have 9/16 hole for the trunnion bolts but the saw actually has 10 mm bolts and holes

It will not work. PERIOD!

Look at the parts for the PALS system and adjust and make your own.

Your not alone. I think there should be a support group for owners of RIDGID power tools.

THEY ARE CRAP!!! CAPITAL”C”, CAPITAL”R”, CAPITAL”A”, CAPITAL”P” 100% CRAP! unless you are willing to put in some time and money.

I did and after months for adjustments grinding and replacing the parts that come with it I am happy.

PS…. your gunna need an aftermarket Miter gauge as well….

That sales price aint looking so good now is it

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#10 posted 01-28-2015 03:23 AM

I don’t know what you’re trying to check but your running against a painted surface. The the paint thickness could change by that much or more or the saw blade plate thickness could have that much varation.

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#11 posted 01-28-2015 03:33 AM

OPPS!! for one.. I just noticed it looks like you are using the ridged r4512 miter gauge with your MIC to measure . NAUGHTY NAUGHTY NAUGHTY . The R4512 Miter gauges is looser than Old Cooter browns Wife! Mine literally clanks down the travel.

Either get a well fitting miter gauge slot track or make one of your own.

The R4512 can be brought back to life but only if you know what your doing.

It’s a shame an out of the box tool needs so much plastic surgery to make it even acceptable

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#12 posted 01-28-2015 03:35 AM


I don t know what you re trying to check but your running against a painted surface. The the paint thickness could change by that much or more or the saw blade plate thickness could have that much varation.

- johnstoneb

From what I can see, he’s measuring the miter gauge to BLADE parralel. Which is a huge issue with the R4512

In fact the number one issue. Which makes it CRAPO!

This issue is unacceptable at any sales price

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#13 posted 01-28-2015 03:40 AM


I don t know what you re trying to check but your running against a painted surface. The the paint thickness could change by that much or more or the saw blade plate thickness could have that much varation.

- johnstoneb

BUT it can be corrected! I love my R4512 now. It is as quiet, solid and stable as a Methodist preaher

From what I can see, he s measuring the miter gauge to BADE parralel. Which is a huge issue with the R4512

In fact the number one issue. Which makes it CRAPO!

This issue is unacceptable at any sales price

- Garbanzolasvegas

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#14 posted 01-28-2015 03:46 AM

-- If you don't Play, you can't win

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#15 posted 01-28-2015 03:48 AM



First off… Welcome to being an owner of a Ridgid R4512 Table saw. It really is here to test your patients and how much crap you will put up with. I have the exact same saw.

Second: you need to ditch the factory blade and get a good quality blade.

Third: Do your measurements (with a MIC) as to if the high quality blade is parallel to the MITER SLOT

Forth: if it is not… There is a 50-50 chance it will NOT BE…. You have to decide if it is worth taking it s ASSEMBLED 250 pound bulk back for a refund and try again

Fifthly: If you decide to stick with it, you got some work on your hands…....

DO NOT BY ANY MEANS buy the PALS alignment KIT!!!!! IT WILL NOT FIT your saw! Even if it does say for the R4512!!!! The PALS for the R4512 have 9/16 hole for the trunnion bolts but the saw actually has 10 mm bolts and holes

It will not work. PERIOD!

Look at the parts for the PALS system and adjust and make your own.

Your not alone. I think there should be a support group for owners of RIDGID power tools.

THEY ARE CRAP!!! CAPITAL”C”, CAPITAL”R”, CAPITAL”A”, CAPITAL”P” 100% CRAP! unless you are willing to put in some time and money.

I did and after months for adjustments grinding and replacing the parts that come with it I am happy.

PS…. your gunna need an aftermarket Miter gauge as well….

That sales price aint looking so good now is it

- Garbanzolasvegas

Thanks for your honesty… not sure what you mean with the word “MIC”... As of “Made in China”?

Well if it comes to that, i am not planning to spend more money or the time just to make it work… I am trying to get an accurate diagnose of the problem… to make decision… However, if there is an adjustment to correct the problem then I can do that.

I will take your advice an perform the miter slot measurement… The manual is pretty basic when it comes to adjustments..

Thanks

-- Manny-E

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