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Forum topic by skatefriday posted 01-27-2015 02:39 AM 2351 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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skatefriday

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01-27-2015 02:39 AM

This is my first cabinet.

It’s a vanity going into a bathroom. Start to finish took
a little over 4 months of Sundays, but that was largely because I was
teaching myself as I went, and building out aspects of my
shop, acquiring necessary tools, etc…

However, as I was putting the back on I discovered where
it was out of square. It’s 3/16” narrower at the base, than
the top. The dimensions at the base will fit into it’s planned
slot. The top, decidedly, will not. Oops.

I figure that the pocket screw construction I used, combined
with spreaders that weren’t EXACTLY what they needed to
be combined to create the trapezoidal shape. I have a 1/4” over
hang on the face frame that could be routed flush that isn’t
enough as the carcass itself is too wide. Yeah, I really did screw
up that measurement.

I’m considering expanding my bathroom remodel to include
demo of the old plaster walls just so that I can fit this in.
Probably not the first time someone has built a larger structure
around a smaller one because he screwed up the smaller one,
but just the same.

Any ideas for salvaging this? Also considering remaking just
the carcass and faceframe and reusing the drawers and doors.


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REO

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#1 posted 01-27-2015 02:46 AM

just take the rock off the wall where the vanity needs to fit. slide it in fasten it down and install your top. if the offset of the top will bug you carefully remove the plaster where the side splash will go and fasten in place.

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waho6o9

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#2 posted 01-27-2015 02:52 AM

Sounds like you can demo the walls away about a 1/4” on each

side and slide in your cabinet.

Good looking first cabinet!

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exelectrician

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#3 posted 01-27-2015 04:01 AM

I agree with above comments – The go to tool for this job is one of the many new multi saws, (copy of Fein) they cut very precise shavings off drywall like a hot knife thru butter.

-- Love thy neighbour as thyself

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Garbanzolasvegas

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#4 posted 01-27-2015 04:19 AM

I have to commend you on inset drawer fronts that are so accurate and clean. I don’t have the guts for that yet

-- If you don't Play, you can't win

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NoThanks

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#5 posted 01-27-2015 05:38 AM

Yeah, I think I would just cut out the sheetrock.

-- Because I'm gone, that's why!

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Rick

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#6 posted 01-28-2015 03:38 AM



Yeah, I think I would just cut out the sheetrock.

- Iwud4u

Sheetrock? (3 Times Above Also)

From The Intro: “demo of the old plaster walls just so that I can fit this in.”

Skatefriday: You did a fine job on that cabinet, first time or not! I wouldn’t tear it apart though. “Somehow” I’d play around with the walls to make them straighter or flatter.

OR: If you can, try and shave some of the back of the Cabinet to make it fit better.

Was I correct above when I mentioned that these walls are Plaster (Lath & Plaster) after I READ your Intro?

-- Hope Everyone Is Doing Well! .... Best Regards: Rick

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Tony_S

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#7 posted 01-28-2015 11:44 AM

Looks like everyone READ the intro to me.
Plaster…drywall…sheetrock??? Wtf difference does it make Rick? The proposed solution is the same in the end.

Do you ever come to this site without looking for a fight or argument of some sort?

-- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle

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NoThanks

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#8 posted 01-28-2015 05:46 PM

No problem Tony,
Rick has me blocked, he just wants to dig at me. I pay no attention to it.
(I’d run circles around his dumazz!)

Yeah, I read plaster.
Wonder why he didn’t slam REO or exelectrician?
Then he suggests the same thing in different words, lol
“Somehow” I’d play around with the walls to make them straighter or flatter.”
I could make it fly if it were here but trying to explain to someone else is a little harder.

My first suggestion, before I deleted it, was to make a 1/4” cut out of the back in one of the sections to let the back close up, then cover it with a new back on the inside of the section he cuts, but I figured it might mess with the drawers. Not sure how well the drawers are working now with the cabinet out of square as it is.

-- Because I'm gone, that's why!

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Rick

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#9 posted 01-28-2015 08:27 PM

Thank you for your “Constructive Criticism”. I’ll TRY not to post any more clarifying comments when I notice wrongful information.

As far as ”(I’d run circles around his dumazz!)”. There’s a reason I blocked you a long time ago. These types of comments to anyone, on a regular basis is one of them. Probably the reason you have “0” Buddies and no one has you as a “Buddy”.

As far as this particular one goes, you know what you can do with it, don’t you!

”Plaster…drywall…sheetrock??? Wtf difference does it make Rick?” Really? There is no difference? ....LOL…

-- Hope Everyone Is Doing Well! .... Best Regards: Rick

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AlaskaGuy

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#10 posted 01-28-2015 08:41 PM

LOL. Some people are just grumpy…................................all the time.

Standing my for more ….....................entertainment.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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RobS888

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#11 posted 01-28-2015 08:43 PM

This East-West Canada tussle has to stop.

You’re both wrong! Vancouver is the best city in Canada!

Sorry, couldn’t resist!

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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skatefriday

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#12 posted 01-31-2015 04:22 AM

Ok, now this is getting entertaining. :-)

The walls are plaster over button board. Built in 1956 in Southern California.
Apparently a transition era between pure lathe and plaster and drywall.

Anyone know a good cabinet installer out here that wants to help me with this?

Thanks for the compliments. I probably wouldn’t do inset again as my first
cabinet, although getting the reveal right wasn’t the hardest part. I measured
carefully and the cut scrap first, with stop blocks to get the size correct. Then
used a 1/8” shim for placing the drawer fronts.

The hardest part was the doors. Took me about 2 months of trial and error
to produce something I was happy with. And only then after I bought the
Freud tongue and groove router bits. I was entirely unsuccessful, despite what
youtube might imply, doing those on my table saw alone. Once the doors were
done and the size correct Blum hinges proved amazingly useful with the cams for
getting them all perfectly aligned.

And the drawers work really well. Soft close KV slides.

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firefighterontheside

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#13 posted 01-31-2015 04:40 AM

So the base is narrow enough to fit, the face frame can have the overhang cut off so that the front will fit. The last part that needs to fit is the upper back. Take your circular saw and cut down from the top of the back panel to just above the base. Remove what you need so you can pull the sides together to get it in the space. Kind of like taking in a pair of pants.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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Picklehead

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#14 posted 01-31-2015 12:12 PM

I don’t know anybody who has ever had to take IN a pair of pants!!!!!

-- You've got to be smarter than the tree.

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ric53

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#15 posted 01-31-2015 01:26 PM

Just cut the drywall/plaster and slide it in. Not to difficult. Not a lot of thought involved and if done right not much time.

-- Ric, Mazomanie

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