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Forum topic by ryguy posted 01-25-2015 11:32 PM 1664 views 0 times favorited 40 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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01-25-2015 11:32 PM


I am not a regular poster, but I am a regular looker and learner. Over the last few years I have grown my side business with numerous members guides as to what to do as well as my own perspectives. I started out at craft shows and have been to over 60 since I started and I fell into a situation where I am at a market and show my wares every weekend. I do very well here with my items- turnings, cutting boards, etc.

What I want from you guys is your perspective and if you feel the same way as I do, a response…
This man came into my booth today and in front of his wife commented on his opinion of my cutting boards then he got his card out of his wallet and handed it to me. On the card it states “The Cutting Board Specialist” and in fact his website is – then he says to me I should check it out and I might learn a thing or two.

The arrogance of this blew me away- I can’t imagine doing something like this and he is basically saying he is better that ALL others. When I got home today, I saw his website and laughed out loud- his items are nothing compared to the work on here. Just the tumbling blocks alone blow his away (in my opinion)

I thought it might be interesting to share with the members of Lumberjocks this guy and his work and encourage any of you to critique his work considering he considers himself the master of all cutting boards. I would also encourage you to send him an email to let him know your thoughts.

I will also say, my work is not amazing, it is basic end grain and face grain cutting boards, but they are basic because that is what the market will bear. I could go crazy on designs, but it would be a rare thing to sell them and get the labor involved out of them.

None the less, I encourage you all to tell him what your opinions of your boards are.

-- Ryan, Cincinnati, OH

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#1 posted 01-25-2015 11:58 PM

Well it sounds like you ran into a total jerk. I often find it amazing how much a jerk can ruin a day. Long after an encounter with one I find myself being incredibly frustrated, annoyed, even angry with other people who have nothing to do with the jerk.

That said, the best way to deal with a jerk is to move away from them. Put as much distance from yourself and them as possible. Its natural to think, “Oh I will show a jerk that they are a jerk and then they will stop being a jerk” or “Oh I will show a jerk that they are being a jerk and then they will go away and I will have my revenge as well!”

This unfortunately are faulty reasoning because a jerk can not be show the error of their ways. Anymore then you can make poisoned water pure again by adding more poison.

Thus the best thing to do in this situation is to move on.

Sorry this jerk ruined your day. But tomorrow is a new one and it sounds like you found a nice little niche that works great for you. No reason not to enjoy it.

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#2 posted 01-26-2015 12:14 AM

I have also found that some people just have to be that way. I do mostly built in , laundry room locker and benches and closet systems that sort of thing. There is always someone how can build it better or think it should be a different way but I build what the customer long as you are pleased as well as the customer than it really doesn’t matter what any one else thinks. Of corse there are times when I personally think the project should’ve come out better but that’s just me critiquing my own work.most of the time those people are just haters and really can’t do the job anyway. Just keep building what your doing and smile to your self that if it was easy every one would do it. Rich.

-- richie b.

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#3 posted 01-26-2015 12:19 AM

”. . . and maybe you’ll learn a thing or two.” Following the phrase “Look at how I do things. . .” of course. I can’t think of a more arrogant thing to say.

On a kayak trip on the west side of Vancouver Island, we ran into a guy who had built a wooden kayak (much like mine), and his own paddle. He looked at my paddle (a design I had been evolving and developing for quite a few years, and which I like very much), and told me what was wrong with it, how I should have done it. He didn’t even pick it up. Had he done so, he would have found it to be very light weight, because the shaft is hollow, with walls only about 3/16” thick. I didn’t bother to respond, though. Let him bask in the lurid glow of his own self importance.

Though you might accuse me of being smug about my paddle, I can only say I never mention it to other paddlers unless they ask about it (they usually don’t). And I don’t offer invidious comparisons.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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#4 posted 01-26-2015 12:26 AM

You did learn a thing or two from this guy… what kind of person NOT to be…only a fool goes around patting himself on the back.

First...he is an idiot with an attitude problem

Second... no one likes this idiot but his wife…and she’s probably bullshittin’ him as much as he is bullshittin everyone else…

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#5 posted 01-26-2015 12:29 AM

Let it go.. ain’t worth the effort, nor very important in the grand scheme of things.


-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#6 posted 01-26-2015 12:30 AM

Some people like to discourage anyone who might be viewed as competition rather than stepping their own game up.

Just don’t be discouraged. Know that his pettiness was a result of his own fear. Don’t respond to pettiness with pettiness.

-- Support woodworking hand models. Buy me a sawstop.

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#7 posted 01-26-2015 12:51 AM

Reminds me of a fellow we had around here. Had his ad plastered on the side of his truck “The Master Carpenter”. He wasn’t a bad carpenter, but we had a lot that were better. He knew it all and couldn’t take the time to admire anyone else’s work or learn anything new. He fooled some people, including himself. He never would have listened to anyone else, as they didn’t know what they were talking about. Most that knew him just smiled behind his back.

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#8 posted 01-26-2015 01:48 AM

I looked at the site, and ok, not bad but seen better. I’d flicked his card in the floor! Then I would have said “well bless your heart!” If your from the south you’ll understand.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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#9 posted 01-26-2015 01:55 AM


I wouldn’t let this guy bother you too much, like the others have said, he’s just another jerk that thinks he knows it all.

I would only hope his cutting boards are better than his marketing. I visited his web-site and the only thing I found was outdated information. He list all of his cutting boards as “sold” except for about a half dozen and they were posted back in 2009 and according to his site, they still haven’t sold.

Either he hasn’t sold anything in 6 years or he hasn’t updated his site in 6 years; either way, his web-site is a joke.

Just let it go and have fun with your woodworking.

-- John @

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#10 posted 01-26-2015 03:38 AM

Should have told him that you already learned enough from him. But I would just forget the Jerk and go ahead making boards the way you want. There will always be those people around, usually their alone though. I guess his wife was the only one that would go with him.

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#11 posted 01-26-2015 03:20 PM

Thanks guys- I appreciate the responses. At the time it really chapped my butt, but you guys are right. Let him be an ass and move on. My little business is going really well and that is what I need to concentrate on.

-- Ryan, Cincinnati, OH

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#12 posted 01-26-2015 04:36 PM

Ignorance can be corrected, but stupid is forever.


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#13 posted 01-26-2015 05:13 PM

The only problem is that you let him get inside your head. Even if he does make better cutting boards than you and he has a website and a business card – so what.

I’ve found “fogging” people like this is kind of fun – “You’re right man, my cutting boards suck. I cant believe people actually pay money for this rubbish.”

BTW – good to see someone else from the Queen City on here.


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#14 posted 01-26-2015 05:40 PM

Glad yer letting it go. Ain’t it great he’s not the ultimate authority on how good your work is and since yer bipusiness is going really well then I think your workmanship must be pretty darn good. And if this ” cutting board Specialist” thinks his work is something to be proud of and he is the ultimate in cutting boards I think he should search “3d butterfly cutting board” watch a video on it learn something.
Pretty cool video anyways for anyone interested.
And his motive for doing that to ya was probably fear. He must have been local, now knows he has competition, and his competitions craftsmanship is as good or better than his own.

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#15 posted 01-26-2015 05:41 PM

What was his opinions on your cutting boards?

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