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Forum topic by ogio5150 posted 01-23-2015 05:42 PM 1885 views 0 times favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ogio5150

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01-23-2015 05:42 PM

I’m just getting into WW. There is a G1023s for $500 on CL and will deliver it. It seems to be in great condition. I wanted a left tilt but this seems like a great deal for a horse of a saw (220/3hp) that will get me started. It appears that the optional motor cover is no longer offered from Grizzly. That is a bummer. Anything I should be wary of? Orig mitre gauge is gone but seller is offering an Incra 1000 for $50. Any advice or recommendations?


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#1 posted 01-23-2015 06:27 PM

I don’t know much about about that saw but I was recently looking at the lower end G0771 and G0715.
I spoke with somebody at Grizzly and they recommended the G1023.
If it was me I wouldn’t be asking, I would get my butt over there with $500 and buy it before its gone.
That is a lot of saw for $500.

-- Joel, Encinitas, CA

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#2 posted 01-23-2015 06:39 PM

You better jump on it quick…. it won’t last long at that price…

They are very solid and well respected saws.

Right tilt has it’s advantages…. I actually prefer it, as I use a dado stack a lot more often than I bevel rip cut, and with a Biesemeyer style fence, I can put the fence on the left side for safe bevel rips in all of 5 seconds.

Nab the incra miter while your at it….

you can easily make a motor cover out of thin plywood that will work perfectly well.

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#3 posted 01-23-2015 06:42 PM

I bought a G1023 off of CL a couple years ago for next to nothing because the motor was blown, and it didn’t have a fence. It all worked out in my favor because I was able to get the motor fixed for free by a friend, and I didn’t want the original fence anyways (I have an Incra fence that I love).

The one major issue I have with the saw is that the table is not flat front to back. The center of the table is a good .015”-.020” higher than the front and back. For the most part it isn’t a big deal, but it has occasionally caused frustration when I’m trying to make precise cuts. I would take a decent straight edge with you to check the top for flatness. If I didn’t get such a good deal on my saw I would have passed on it, and some day I plan to replace it with something better.

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#4 posted 01-23-2015 06:59 PM

The G1023S is essentially an older style Delta Unisaw clone, and is generally well regarded as solid value. $500 could be a nice deal if it has a Shop Fox Classic or the Shop Fox Original fence….I’d likely offer less for an older style fence, or if it’s rough shape. Can’t hurt to ask him to toss in that Incra too….or negotiate heavily on it. You can build a motor cover.

Run it see if it’s smooth and sounds right. With the saw unplugged, spin the blade and listen for any notable bearing noise. It should be fairly quiet. I’ve never done it, but have read that bearing replacement isn’t an expensive or difficult task, but it would impact my offer if the bearings are grinding/squealing. Check inside that the trunnions aren’t cracked, and for other obvious damage. It’s nice if the hand wheels move freely, but saw dust and lack of lube can cause them to be stiff…easy to fix, if that’s the cause.

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#5 posted 01-23-2015 09:40 PM

Well? Did you get there in tome to get it?

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ogio5150

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#6 posted 01-24-2015 12:00 AM

Well, I nabbed this G1023s and an Incra Mitre gauge for $585, delivered right to my garage too. The tilt was a tad squeaky but I’m confident it just needs a little lube. It passed the nickel test (turn on power with a nickel balanced on edge) that I read was a good indicator of acceptable vibration. It has the Shop Fox classic fence, but it doesn’t have the rear rail. Is that a necessary part of the fence? It didn’t have the splitter that I think came standard on this model either. The belts look like they may need to be tightened a little too. Minor surface rust on top. I’m letting a little CLP soak in before I get to work on it with a medium 3M pad and some 400 grit to clean it up.

Any recommendations for lubricating the undercarriage (Trunnion is it called?)? Grease? Oil?

I am pretty satisfied with what I got for the $. The blade seems pretty square. There is prob less than 1/32 difference between front to back. Less than a sheet of paper anyway. Seems like a horse of a saw that will serve me well, and for a good while, as I enter the hobby.

I ordered the missing dust/trap door and a shop fox mobile base already. I think I’m ready to start making some saw dust!!

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#7 posted 01-24-2015 12:06 AM

My first cabinet saw was a 1023 Griz, very darn good saw, gave it to my uncle who needed one real bad and gave me the excuse to get the PM66 new in the crate for 1500.. Win Win for all…

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bonesbr549

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#8 posted 01-24-2015 12:08 AM

Ya done good son! I sold my 10 year old 1023slx for 800 back last Jan. Enjoy! Mine served we well. Would still have it today but upgraded to SS.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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ogio5150

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#9 posted 01-24-2015 12:12 AM

So, if I had the rear rail, then the fence would slide smoothly on both rails and eliminate some of the friction of it resting on the saw top as it is now?

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#10 posted 01-24-2015 01:23 AM

You don’t really need the back rail unless you plan to run the fence past the end of the table. I’m not sure what that rail looks like, but you could probably make your own. It’s just to support the end of the fence.

As for the splitter, you have several choices: 1) find an original; 2) make a ZCI (you’ll want this anyhow), and mount a splitter in the blade slot; 3) get an aftermarket riving knife, such as the BORK (Bolt on Riving Knife). Knotscott and others have reviewed it.

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#11 posted 01-24-2015 03:22 AM

That’s a great looking saw….you done good! Enjoy!

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ElChe

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#12 posted 01-24-2015 03:30 AM

You SUCK. :). That’s a great saw. Great deal.

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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#13 posted 01-24-2015 03:49 AM


So, if I had the rear rail, then the fence would slide smoothly on both rails and eliminate some of the friction of it resting on the saw top as it is now?

- ogio5150

If it’s anything like my t-fence you can run down to any borg and pick up a piece of angle iron to use as the back fence, it will just need a few holes drilled into it.

Paul

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Edit:

Here is what I did to my fence to extend it. Just the back rail is all you need. Any hardware store should have angle iron.

Click for details

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ElChe

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#14 posted 01-24-2015 03:51 AM

Rear rail won’t eliminate the friction. Waxing the table, the front rail, and the bottom of the fence will help a lot.

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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Paul

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#15 posted 01-24-2015 04:54 AM



Rear rail won t eliminate the friction. Waxing the table, the front rail, and the bottom of the fence will help a lot.

- ElChe

You sure?

At least for me I was able to raise my rear fence guide just above the table.

Paul

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