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Forum topic by hecubus667 posted 01-22-2015 01:00 PM 840 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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01-22-2015 01:00 PM

Topic tags/keywords: shop fox shop fox classic fence rail rail system tubing question tablesaw

I just bought a Shop Fox Classic Fence, but it didn’t include the front rail, back rail, or front rail tube. I’m planning on fabricating these parts out of angle iron and steel rectangular tubing, but I’m not sure of the dimensions of these pieces. I’m pretty sure that the front tubing measures 2” X 3” X .21” (11g), but I’m not sure about the dimensions of the rails. Of course the cut lengths for all of these will be determined by my saw, but I’m hoping someone who owns this system will be able to tell me the dimensions of the pieces.


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#1 posted 01-22-2015 02:09 PM

If no one comes through for you by then, I’ll try to take a measurement when I get home this PM.

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#2 posted 01-23-2015 01:13 PM

Sorry…didn’t get to it last night, but will try again if no one beats me to it.

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#3 posted 01-23-2015 02:53 PM

Thanks for keeping it in mind. I appreciate it.

I’ve been watching all the askwoodman.tv videos on how to construct a rail system, I just need to figure out the sizes of rail to buy that will work with the shop fox classic T-square. I suspect that the components needed aren’t quite as beefy as askwodman uses and therefore a bit less expensive. I’m also putting this system on a 1979 Craftsman 113 series, so I’m thinking less weight might be a plus although I’m also thinking about just going ahead and building a base cabinet, so I can extend the rail out and then weight won’t be an issue.

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#4 posted 01-23-2015 04:38 PM

Front tube 1 5/8” X 2 3/8” x 3/32” thick
Front angle iron 1 7/8” outside 1/4” thick
Rear angle iron 1 1/2” outside 3/16” thick
Hope this helps.
Didn’t think that you’d want metric dimensions.
Bill

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#5 posted 01-23-2015 04:50 PM

Thank you very much, Bill. I should have known they would use metric steel. Hopefully there will be enough tolerances built in that I can use SAE parts without too much shimming.

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#6 posted 01-26-2015 04:31 PM

Bill, I was looking at the measurements you posted and I’m confused on where the top of the front rail sits in relation to the front angle iron. In the example picture above the angle iron is 3” and sits just below the table. The 2 inch tall tubing then sits on this angle iron. The thickness of the angle iron plus the tubing would be 2 1/4”, which puts the tubing 3/4” below the top of the angle iron.

The Shop Fox instructions say to mount the top of the angle iron level with the table, so I was expecting the measurement of the pieces to show me the distance between the top of the tubing and the top of the angle iron/table; but when I added your tubing measurement 1 5/8” to the 1/4” thickness of the angle, I got a measurement of 1 7/8”, which is the same size as the angle iron and would therefore put the top of the tubing even with the top of the table. This doesn’t seem possible as the fence bracket and fence bottom sit well above the tubing. It seems that the top of the tubing would need to sit below the table so that the fence itself would ride 1/16” above the table. Could you double check your measurements or clarify where I am going wrong with my understanding.

Thanks

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#7 posted 01-27-2015 08:28 AM

If you put the angle iron level with the top of the table, won’t you have to notch it for the miter gauge bar? I suggest you go with what your own eyes and analysis show you, and not worry about confusing instructions.

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#8 posted 01-27-2015 02:59 PM

Yes, notching for the miter gauge is pretty much a standard step when building your own rail system. Factory rails come pre-notched. While the rail doesn’t have to be exactly even with the top, you want the angle iron to have as much contact with the vertical surface of the table, so that it remains rigid and square.

The reason that I’m asking this question is because I can’t use my eye without the parts to look at. By analyzing the instructions,, I’ve determined a way to get the appropriate spacing dimensions that I need by comparing the dimensions of the pieces. Many of the dimensions of the parts don’t really matter, but there seems to be two key elements that matter a great deal before buying the tube and angle iron: 1. the width of the tube so that the cam lock device locks the fence down, but still allows for free and smooth adjusting when unlocked; 2. the distance between the bottom of the fence and the top of the front tube, which is critical in allowing the fence to move freely along the table without creating a large gap that would allow material to slide under (ideally 1/16” and no more than 1/8”).

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#9 posted 01-27-2015 03:48 PM

The angle iron on my Grizz 0444Z TS is below the top of the table as in the drawing. It is 5/8” below the flat surface.
The drawing dimensions don’t match those on my Shop Fox, but the installation is the same.
The rails are not notched.
BTW, my saw has cast iron wings. Don’t know if that makes a difference.
Bill

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#10 posted 01-28-2015 08:21 PM

Thanks Bill, that helps. I appreciate you measuring that for me.

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