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Forum topic by Betsy posted 04-02-2009 07:59 PM 1342 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-02-2009 07:59 PM

Got a message from Jon1 – through private message. He has no post, projects, blogs etc. He’s using this site for his business purposes. I think you should avoid him and let him get his own site. He’s advertising antique wood. I’ll be reporting him to Martin. But thought I’d warn the rest of you.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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#1 posted 04-02-2009 08:04 PM

10x for the heads up

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#2 posted 04-02-2009 08:27 PM

There is an increasing number of people joining in the last month, several hundred, and of those at least half I would call hit and run posters. There are others who’ve been here a long time that are the same way. They only post their projects and you don’t see any other activity from them. Of those many list a website of their business. Near as I can figure, there’s only actually about a few hundred really active posters here, most of whom aren’t here to advertise their businesses.

-- Respect your shop tools and they will respect you - Ric

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#3 posted 04-02-2009 08:35 PM

I got one too, just this morning.

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#4 posted 04-02-2009 08:51 PM

Yes, there’s been a lot of that going on lately! And it always starts with a direct e-mail. Like just this morning I got a “new woodworking buddy” of course they did not even exist! But then again that’s not the first time that’s happened to me! LOL!!! But I do believe the integrity of Lumberjocks as a fine and wonderful woodworking community is becoming somewhat tarnished, and I for one think it’s a crying shame!
I get the e-mails from someone that sets up an account here and then they write you and tell you that you have just won a bunch of money from some other country. I have had that happen 4 times in the last year. I just immediately report those to Martin!

-- Allison, Northeastern Ca. Remember, Amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic!

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#5 posted 04-02-2009 09:14 PM

no need to take it personally though, it’s one of the internet’s open community’s itches for years… nothing new here.

I think that as a woodworking community here on LJ, we know who the ‘real’ people are (except for recently Bag-Boy unveiling his real personality…lol) and I think that’s what matters. we share our ideas, questions, experiences, and those that are here on a phantom status – really make no difference in any way- no need to shift focus to them… just keep on doing what we do.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#6 posted 04-02-2009 09:14 PM

I see this as a non point. If it wasn’t for people selling wood, where would patrons get material for their craft. Why should anyone not be allowed to use a free woodworking site to promote themselves. Is there more validity to one persons projects/posts over the other just because one chooses to comment on someones widget? There are all sorts of advertising banners on the site. As far as businesses posting projects and not contiributing to discussion, while I am guilty of that, I might add that time spent meandering WWing forums is time spent not woodworking. Breaks over, back to work.

-- Doubt kills more dreams than failure.

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#7 posted 04-02-2009 09:32 PM

I agree with rhett, but with one caveat… don’t advertise in a pm to me. just put up a posting like everyone else does.


-- -JimmyC...Clayton,NC- "Just smile and wave boys, smile and wave"

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#8 posted 04-02-2009 11:03 PM

I’ve been getting emails from lately, but not through LJ. It is obviously some kind of scam with that address. I don’t even bother to open them.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#9 posted 04-02-2009 11:18 PM

ya i don’t open a thing from the IRS either… they scare me

-- Paul , Calfornia

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#10 posted 04-03-2009 02:02 AM

Rhett – I’d have to disagree. This is a free site because Martin has done a good job of getting paying advertisers. If all a person is going to do is log on, get a bunch of names, pm them and then skidaddle – then they are stealing from Martin. If Martin does not shut them freeloaders down then he’ll eventually lose the paying advertisers and then this site would no longer be free for you and I to disagree. I don’t have any problem with people who have a business bringing it up on the forums from time to time, but this is a forum for sharing not selling. I also don’t mind people just posting a project and not contributing to the forums. There are a ton of lurkers who either don’t feel like they can contribute anything or are afraid to.

Maybe I’m missing something, but someone who wants to make a buck off of someone else’s hard work is not someone I want to buy from. (Yes, I know every employee is making bucks for their employers – but the employer and employee are in the boat together. Freeloaders on this site give nothing back to Martin’s business.)

Just my 2 cents.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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#11 posted 04-03-2009 02:08 AM

There are literally people who post projects here that only say “I built this, I think I did a great job!” and you never hear from them again, until they post practically the same words with their next project. People ask questions and you never know what wood was used, what dims are, or anything. That’s what my peeve is about these people who are hit and runners.

I never see ads on this site, the way my browser is set up. BUT unlike many here, even long timers, I am a donor to keep this site going. I’m really surprised more of the people who have many projects here aren’t donors. I was thinking about this while out driving today, and it baffles me, because I take away a LOT of useful info and insight from other posters here. When they are willing to share.

-- Respect your shop tools and they will respect you - Ric

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#12 posted 04-03-2009 02:12 AM

I know what you are saying Oldskool. You do have to take the donor thing with a grain of salt though. Because you can be a silent donor on this site.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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#13 posted 04-03-2009 02:36 AM

Unfortunately we can’t cvlean up the internet from all of the spam. But it would be nice to have this place “Junk Free”

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Appomattox Virginia †

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#14 posted 04-03-2009 06:51 AM

I agree with Betsy. If all you’re going to do is advertise on this site, talk to Martin and pay for an ad spot. When I look at projects and forums I don’t mind that someone advertises that they have a mill or great lumber on their posts. It’s good to help each other out with resources. But if all you do is advertise instead of posting projects, commenting, checking out forums, or other activities, then you’re not really a member. This is supposed to be a community site.

By the way I have some prime swamp land in Florida for sale if anyone is interested. It’s a great investment opportunity. In a few million years it will be ready to produce oil.

-- Don't tell her I'm in the shop!

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