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Forum topic by texretvet posted 01-21-2015 03:29 PM 3781 views 1 time favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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texretvet

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01-21-2015 03:29 PM

I will be upgrading my Craftsman 10 inch table saw from the factory pulleys and v-belt.

I know that both the link belt and serpentine are better than the current v-belt system.

Which would be the better choice?

I will also be putting a link belt on my Jet 14” bandsaw. Would it be best to use the link belt on the table saw since I’ll be using it on my bandsaw as well, just to keep things uniform?

I appreciate the help.


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#1 posted 01-21-2015 03:52 PM

Both are good. Link belt offers smoother operation, and can be used with your stock v-pulleys. Serpentine belts make less wind noise because they’re more aerodynamic, but can still be prone to taking a little set…they also require the proprietary pulleys. If I were in your shoes, I’d probably grab a link belt from HF using the stock pulleys, and would only upgrade those if necessary. If the stock pulleys are shot, and you don’t want to spend the money for precision machined v-pulleys and the link belt, there some serpentine belt and pulley kits for ~ $30 that should work great.

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#2 posted 01-21-2015 05:25 PM

I have an old Craftsman t.s. #113.298 that I’ve had for nearly 28-29 years….Still using the same pullys, and only changed the belt once in all that time…It’s just a v-belt, and I went to an automotive parts store and got a replacement…I took the old belt, and they matched it perfect…. $2.00 brand new…..No need for link and serpentine belts (for me)...Only if the pullys were shot would I then change them out…...But that’s me…You can do what you want to…...

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#3 posted 01-21-2015 05:28 PM

+1 re scotts comments. i have two emerson built CI TSs, one with an OEM serpentine belt and the other with a link belt. the link belt saw seems to run a bit smoother. here’s a video of my link belt saw doing a nickel test while bevel ripping a work piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvTS7pfhfsU

and yes, releasing the work piece mid cut was definitely not my best move. but it does demonstrate how well aligned the fence was.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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#4 posted 01-21-2015 08:11 PM

I’ve used all three, and found little difference between a high quality v-belt, link belt, or serp belt. The v-belts that come with these machines are ususally junk and the v-belts often found on older, used machines are in bad shape. A high quality v-belt from Gates makes a big difference IMO.
But to answer your question, I’ve bought two of these sets (see below) off of ebay, and have been pleased. Slightly cheaper than buying the link belt and pulleys.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ridgid-Craftsman-Table-Saw-Serpentine-Belt-and-Pulley-Kit-420J6-Steel-Pulleys-/201262105376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2edc280320

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texretvet

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#5 posted 01-22-2015 01:56 AM

I think the belt that is on it is either the original or very old. There is some serious vibration coming from it. The pulley on the motor has a slight bend to it which I’m sure doesn’t help.

I figured since I’m gonna replace one pulley, then I might as well replace both. Since I’m replacing them, I’m either going with machined pulleys, or the serpentine setup.

Does anyone have a good source for the precision machined v-belt pulleys for use with the link belt?.

Tedstor – That is the exact auction I was looking at for the serpentine setup.

Thanks for the advice everyone.

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#6 posted 01-22-2015 02:25 AM

link

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#7 posted 01-22-2015 03:27 AM

LINK….

http://in-lineindustries.com/products/accu-link-belt/

Be sure to look at the Contractor Saw PALS….

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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texretvet

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#8 posted 01-23-2015 01:30 AM

Thanks DIY

I just ordered the PALS and a machined pulley/link belt set.

Looking forward to getting it and getting my saw tuned up.

Next step will be a new fence. This saw still has the original.

Thanks to everyone for the advice!

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#9 posted 01-23-2015 01:39 AM

Ant time…. Tex,

There is a slight trick to installing the PALS, on a C’man saw at least….

One of the bolts interferes with the 45 degree tilt of the blade.
I forget which bolt, but it is one of the bolts to the rear of the table.
Follow their instructions, for installation & alignment.
Then test the 45 degree tilt. Once you know which bolt interferes….
Remove that bolt (with the three other trunnion bolts firmly tightened),
Then remove the PAL and re-install the original trunnion bolt.

Installation is really quite simple.
However, should you have any confusion or questions….
You can PM me or contact In-Line Industries for clarification.

Carry on….

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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texretvet

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#10 posted 01-25-2015 05:48 AM

I got the pulleys and belt today. I didn’t have time to change out the pulleys, but I put the belt on and all I can say is …......WOW!!!!

I can’t believe it’s the same saw. Can’t wait to see what it is like with the machined pulleys tomorrow.

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toolie

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#11 posted 01-25-2015 11:28 AM

Great news. Have you made sur that the pulleys are coplanar? Coplanarity can have a dramatic effect on the extent to which the saw vibrates.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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DIYaholic

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#12 posted 01-25-2015 01:43 PM

You’re on your way….

Yeah, I love link belts.
I put one on my jointer, lathe and will be putting one (two really) on my drill press.

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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texretvet

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#13 posted 01-25-2015 04:13 PM

Toolie, I will be checking for coplanarity when I put the new pulleys on today.

I stiffened up the thin metal stand with some heavy oak boards and that has made quite a difference as well. It will work until I get a base cabinet built.

I should get the PALS I ordered sometime this week and will get everything squared up.

All I will need then is a new fence.

Then I’ll start on the bandsaw. LOL

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toolie

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#14 posted 01-27-2015 12:54 AM

I should get the PALS I ordered sometime this week and will get everything squared up.

a nice tool that is absolutely unnecessary to align that saw. follow the instructions in the OM. a miter gauge that is snug in the slot (no slop) and a $10 harbor freight dial gauge are all that are needed (some use even less in the way of tools) to align that saw (blade to slot and fence to the same slot) to +/- .001”

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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texretvet

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#15 posted 01-27-2015 01:26 AM

Another question….

I decided to go ahead and replace the arbor bearings while I was doing all the saw. I took the insides out of the saw and cleaned and lubed everything.

The inner bearing was extremely hard to get off of the shaft and left some pretty good scratches all the way down.

Do I need to polish the shaft somehow, or will it be ok just to stick the new bearings on and go with it?

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