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BlankMan

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1943 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: resource plane

Saw this at a store, close out price of $105. Is it worth that?

I always wanted a larger plane like this for manually surface planing large boards (or glue ups) that were too big for the jointer or planer or drum sander, but never wanted to spend $150, $200 or more for one. This is still a lot but somewhat better. I’m sure I’d have/find other uses for it too.

I’m seeing old used ones for half that, sometimes older is better, so I’m wondering…

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI


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BlankMan

1487 posts in 1949 days


#1 posted 1943 days ago

Can’t find a picture, even on Stanley’s site. I think they stopped making them and that’s why it’s on close out. It’s brand spankin’ new though.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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8iowa

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#2 posted 1943 days ago

The last new Stanly plane that I purchased, a #60 1/2 block plane, had a sole and sides that were rough machined. The sole was not particularilly flat. I spent a lot of time sanding it flat on glass plates. An 18” long plane would have been an even tougher job.

Look at the sole and check it with a straight edge. If it’s smooth and straight you might consider buying it. The blade will have to be flattened and sharpened but that is relatively easy.

Last Summer I purchased a vintage Stanley/Bailey #6 at an antique store for $50. When I get back to the Upper Peninsula refurbing this plane is on the priority list.

-- "Heaven is North of the Bridge"

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BlankMan

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#3 posted 1943 days ago

A U’per, greettings! Thanks for the info, this is a Bailey’s also. I’ve got ground straightedges, one being a 3’ Starrett, based on your comments I probably would take it to the store and check it out. But I’m not inclined to want to spend that kind of money for something I’m going to have spend the time you did to dial it in. If that’s the case I might as well buy an old one for $20-$40 and do it on that one.

I found a picture:

Stanley No. 6 Bailey Made in England Plane

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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kiwi1969

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#4 posted 1943 days ago

Sound like an ok price. I would get it. I have a new #5 and #3 and they needed to be tuned before using. Check the sole is flat and if you can replace the blade with something better, although for what you want maybe the stock iron will suffice. I,m only using mine as a stopgap until i can get something better but they do the job for now.

-- if the hand is not working it is not a pure hand

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BlankMan

1487 posts in 1949 days


#5 posted 1943 days ago

A better blade too?? I’m starting to get the idea that I have to do the finish surface machining to dial it in? Not what I expected. If I have to flatten the sole and replace the blade, used is starting to sound good… Oh and I can see maybe edging boards too with it.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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Francisco Luna

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#6 posted 1943 days ago

a lot of money in my opinion…..I would find a nice “Sweet Heart” at ebay, around $50…..take some time, but it’s worhty the wait.

-- Nature is my manifestation of God. I go to nature every day for inspiration in the day's work. I follow in building the principles which nature has used in its domain" Frank Lloyd Wright

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BlankMan

1487 posts in 1949 days


#7 posted 1943 days ago

Yeah, it looks like it’s turning out to be not such a great “deal”. I just found it at Highland Woodworking for $109 and change. Guess this is why I looked at it yesterday and looked at it again today without buying it before I did some research…

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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marcb

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#8 posted 1943 days ago

If its really brand new its not very good. Lots of work to be put into it. Might as well buy one cheaper on Ebay and put similar work into it but know you’ll end up in a good place.

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8iowa

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#9 posted 1943 days ago

Actually, I bought my 60 1/2 block plane at Highland Woodworking. I’ll be traveling through Atlanta in a few weeks, so I’ll stop in and give this plane a careful inspection.

-- "Heaven is North of the Bridge"

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WayneC

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#10 posted 1943 days ago

I would also buy an old one. Probably a #7 or #8 as opposed to a #6 and put a Hock blade in it. Cost wise it would be around the same if you took your time and shopped around some.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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BlankMan

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#11 posted 1943 days ago

8iowa if you stop Thanks! And I’ll be interested to hear what you find. If I miss out on the one for $105 maybe I’ll get it from Highland. But if I have to do a lot of work to true it up I might as well go with an old one. Especially if I have to buy a blade anyway.

I kind of lean towards the older stuff believing it was made better. Maybe I’ll look for a 7 or 8 too, it really doesn’t matter which one of the three it is.

I want to say thanks all for all your comments and am glad at this point I hadn’t bought it already.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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BlankMan

1487 posts in 1949 days


#12 posted 1943 days ago

As for flattening the sole. I worked in a machine shop for a few years after high school and they had surface grinders that you mounted the part to the table (sometimes an electro-magnent table) and the table went back and forth under a grinding wheel while flooded with coolant. Would having a machine shop take one of these planes and using a machine like that to grind and true the sole work?

Or would it cost too much?

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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knotscott

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#13 posted 1943 days ago

I’m far from an expert, but my understanding is that the Stanley’s made in the UK weren’t as good as when they were made in the US. $105 (or less) should buy you an excellent type 17 or earlier Bailey #6 made in the states, or an older Record #6 made in England. An older Millers Falls #18 would be comparable too. The nostalgia of the old ones is really neat, and most will have been flattened already, and will likely have superior grade components with tighter precision.

I’ve got an older Record #06 and a WWII era Bailey #6. Both in great shape, both excellent, and both were < $80 shipped.


-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Francisco Luna

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#14 posted 1943 days ago

I have heard complaints about planes ruined in those machine shops, because often they don’t know what they are doing….The material to be removed, must be as minimun as possible, because the process alter the mouth size.
I would sugest the traditional lapping…..a granite block with Norton A275 ““Champaign Magnum” glued with Super 77.

-- Nature is my manifestation of God. I go to nature every day for inspiration in the day's work. I follow in building the principles which nature has used in its domain" Frank Lloyd Wright

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Francisco Luna

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#15 posted 1943 days ago

Another Record Fan here!

-- Nature is my manifestation of God. I go to nature every day for inspiration in the day's work. I follow in building the principles which nature has used in its domain" Frank Lloyd Wright

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