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Forum topic by majuvla posted 01-16-2015 09:16 PM 950 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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majuvla

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01-16-2015 09:16 PM

Hi all,

I have question (problem) regarding my cyclon vacuum cleaner. It’s home made and everything works smoothly, with all maschines except with planer. Since planer produce the most chips it almoust all ends in vacuum bucket (bag) or arround planner when there is no sufficient suction any more, instead in additional sawdust tank . Is there a problem with cyclon vacuum or…?
Thanks for all answers, tips and advices.
Ivan

-- Ivan, Croatia, Wooddicted


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patron

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#1 posted 01-16-2015 09:51 PM

can’t help with the cyclone ivan
as i don’t have one

i do know that the duct size
for the planer at 4” will clog easily

since the shavings are bigger and harder to move

it is like the difference from a nice winter snow
and a total blizzard

i have gone to a 5” line for mine
as it just clogged the 4” one
and a 6” one for my 8” jointer
for the same reason

good luck have a good year

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majuvla

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#2 posted 01-16-2015 10:24 PM

Thanks!

-- Ivan, Croatia, Wooddicted

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doubleDD

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#3 posted 01-17-2015 04:12 AM

As patron says, it’s usually in need of a larger duct size. I only have a 4’’ size and works with most lumber. Certain lumbers clog it up right away.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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majuvla

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#4 posted 01-18-2015 12:46 PM

Thanks for comments and explanations, but flow of sucked chips from planer is OK, problem starts in cyclon where everything ends in vacuum bag, not in bucket. What could be wrong here, I used way to built it from numerous videos posted on you tube.

-- Ivan, Croatia, Wooddicted

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#5 posted 01-19-2015 01:28 AM

Pictures of the setup and the problem might help.

-- Just a barn cat, now gone to cat heaven.

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Jim Jakosh

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#6 posted 01-19-2015 01:35 AM

It might just be the volume of chips compared to the hose size or the chip barrel might be too full. I have a 2 1/2” hose on mine and the planer fills my vacuum up too sometimes.

Jim

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#7 posted 01-19-2015 03:09 AM

The problem with planer chips is they are large but thin and light.
A cyclone works by spinning the air flow to make the heavy material separate from the light air.
Big flat thin chips tend to be too light and fluffy to separate this way.
A drop out box would work better.
You can make a drop out box with a large metal trash can.
Make a wood lid with a foam rubber seal to fit the top of the can.
Put two 4 1/2” holes in the lid, one in the center and one close beside ithe first.
Put an 8” long piece of 4” pvc in the center hole and attach with a flange so most of the pipe extends into the can.
Run a short hose from your planer to the center hole flanged pipe.
Now put a flange on the second hole and attach the pipe (or hose) going to your dust collector (cyclone) inlet.
This drop out box will catch most of the planer chips before they get to your cyclone.
The larger and taller this can is, the better it will work.

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josephf

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#8 posted 01-19-2015 04:04 AM

I think I will add my two cents which without seeing his system or any more response from OP is only worth the 2 cents .
My hit would be his bucket ,the one below the cyclone is not sealed .he has a leak .

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majuvla

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#9 posted 01-19-2015 05:14 PM

I think Michael (Crank49) explained very well where the problem is and the main princip of what happens with planer chips. His solution with additional bucket between planer and cyclon could work. I will try this method.
Thanks Michael.

-- Ivan, Croatia, Wooddicted

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#10 posted 01-19-2015 05:38 PM



I think I will add my two cents which without seeing his system or any more response from OP is only worth the 2 cents .
My hit would be his bucket ,the one below the cyclone is not sealed .he has a leak .

- josephf


Yep, or it’s full. I’ve got a 4” system, pulling from the fartherest end of line and don’t have any issues till my can gets close to full. I’d check the lid seal first.
Just my 2c – pretty soon you’ll have a whole dollars worth of info that’s not worth 2c…Ha!
Hope you get it figured out.

-- Troy. - Measure twice, cut once and fill the gaps....

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JeffP

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#11 posted 01-19-2015 06:11 PM

My money is on crank49’s suggestion.

Having said that…if you haven’t already seen the dust collection videos by the Wood Gears guy (Matthias), you will probably find it interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBxFNUWD2GQ&list=PLSnvVtM4lBIU_vvcYBfR0BxHeBgzQyd5n

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