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Forum topic by knexster posted 01-15-2015 09:10 PM 4457 views 1 time favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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knexster

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01-15-2015 09:10 PM

Perusing the local Craigslist ads today I saw a very indescript ad for a craftsman table saw. No model number, no picture, just a couple lines and they wanted 70 bucks. The guy texted me a picture but didn’t have time to give me much more than the model number. I said without knowing the condition I’d drive there and buy it for 40 bucks; he said to come get it. It cut a couple test boards just fine but the only thing wrong is the switch is broke so it turns on a soon as you plug it in. Easy fix, I’d prefer a big paddle button anyway. It’s a bit rusty but I think I’ll be able to clean it up and replace my dwe7480.
Here’s some pictures, any tips on cleaning it up?

-- Don't think outside the box. The box was never there.


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#1 posted 01-15-2015 09:32 PM

The cast iron table & extensions look pretty good. A scotchbrite, with your lubricant of choice (WD40, or what not) a little elbow grease & then clean off the oil and apply a paste wax. The top will then be good to go. The mechanics underneath will need attention too. Clean up the trunnion, clean the blade lift mechanism, then the threads on the tilt rod, then apply a dry lubricant.

The original fence is marginal at best, you may want to consider an after market fence. Knottscott would also advise a quality blade…. and your all set!!!

Congrats on the CL score.

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#2 posted 01-15-2015 09:34 PM

Wow…what a steal for $40! The wings are worth that….so is the fence if you have it. The blade guard is worth close to that. The motor is worth 2x to 3x that! Switch your pulleys and belt with Notw, and you’ll both be set!

Mineral spirits, WD40, or kerosene and a scotchbrite pad under a ROS has worked well for me in the past. If your in a hurry 150 grit sand paper works well on the ROS too.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#3 posted 01-15-2015 09:41 PM

Yeah I noticed the fence was pretty sloppy. When you say an after market fence, do you mean building one or buying one? I haven’t had much luck researching fences to buy. Thanks for the tips on cleaning it up, what is the trunnion though? As for the blade, I’ll be transferring over the one I have on my dewalt until it sells and then I’m gonna covert that money into a few new blades.

-- Don't think outside the box. The box was never there.

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#4 posted 01-15-2015 09:49 PM

Something like this should be a direct bolt on for your saw, and is an upgrade, but isn’t as nice as the Delta T2 IMHO. You could probably sell the stock fence for ~ $40 to offset some cost.

The trunnions are the guts underneath. You’ll want to clean and lube the gears, and align the blade to the miter slot, then the fence to the miter slot.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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knexster

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#5 posted 01-15-2015 09:49 PM



Wow…what a steal for $40! The wings are worth that. The blade guard is worth close to that. The motor is worth 2x to 3x that! Switch your pulleys and belt with Notw, and you ll both be set!

Mineral spirits, WD40, or kerosene and a scotchbrite pad under a ROS has worked well for me in the past. If your in a hurry 150 grit sand paper works well on the ROS too.

- knotscott

Thanks for the cleaning tips! As for the pulley, I’m a bit confused about what to replace. I read over the forum you linked but I think as a newbie the lingo might be out of my vocab. V-belt, ribbed belt, replace them in a set, not sure what to replace or what to replace it with. Lol sorry for being slow or even a bit dense.

-- Don't think outside the box. The box was never there.

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knexster

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#6 posted 01-15-2015 09:55 PM



Something like this should be a direct bolt on for your saw, and is an upgrade, but isn t as nice as the Delta T2 IMHO. You could probably sell the stock fence for ~ $40 to offset some cost.

The trunnions are the guts underneath. You ll want to clean and lube them, and align the blade to the miter slot, then the fence to the miter slot.

- knotscott

Okay, those look pretty shiney nice. I’ll definitely need to offset the cost somehow though, will be funny to have a fence that cost more than the table saw but this isn’t an unfamiliar tragedy from the reading I’ve done lol. Maybe I can get 200 for my dwe7480, and if 40 comes from the fence I’ll manage to have some leftover to go towards a dado blade.

-- Don't think outside the box. The box was never there.

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#7 posted 01-15-2015 10:02 PM

I was mostly kidding about swapping pulleys, but it’s indeed possible….NotW has a Ridgid 3660 that uses ribbed pulleys and ribbed belt, which are generally considered an upgrade from standard v-belts and v-pulleys, but he wants to upgrade to a link belt, which will require v-pulleys…..like those on your saw. If you guys switched, and he sent you the ribbed belt along with the ribbed pulleys, you’d both have an upgrade! Note that you really don’t need to replace your belt or pulleys, unless they prove to be problematic…..far more important to get it the basics setup, decent blade, and possibly the fence upgrade, but that can always come later on when you’re ready.

If you do add something like a T2, you’ll have a decent basic full size belt drive contractor saw with cast iron wings and a nice fence for < $240!

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#8 posted 01-15-2015 10:18 PM

That was indeed a great score. Time to get necessary upgrades.

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#9 posted 01-15-2015 10:27 PM

That is a good score, 3 HP is a big motor, mine only has 1 HP.
I put a Delta T2 fence on mine and its makes a huge difference but will cost you $190.
I read about cleaning the top using crumpled aluminum foil and a paste of Bon Ami or Bartender’s friend.
I tried a spot with Bon Ami and it works, just takes some time to scrub it.
If I were you I would build it into a rolling cabinet.
There is a post here where somebody did that, really cool.

-- Joel, Encinitas, CA

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#10 posted 01-15-2015 11:03 PM


That is a good score, 3 HP is a big motor, mine only has 1 HP…..
- Joel_B

The true rating for that motor is closer to 1-1/2hp. That sticker on the front was put there by the marketing gurus, not the engineers! A true 3hp motor like those found on Unisaws have large amp draws and are generally best run on a 220v circuit.

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#11 posted 01-15-2015 11:18 PM

Looks just like my saw that I bought new in late ‘80s. If you want the original “junk fence” let me know. I put a Delta T2 on mine and still have the original. I’d send it to you for $20 + shipping.

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#12 posted 01-16-2015 12:09 AM

Actually, I had that same original fence on my old Craftsman saw. It is serviceable if you don’t want to spend a lot of money on a fence right away.

Also, I think $220 is a little steep for that fence someone linked. You can find them used for less than that. I think the align-a-rip was made for Sears by Ridgid. They used to sell an upgrade fence (Ridgid AC1036) for Craftsman saws. Functionally and physically very similar to the align-a-rip.

I went down the same path you are going right now. I spent $50 on the saw and $85 on a used Ridgid AC1036 fence. Find the story here and here. One of these details the process I used to clean the saw table. Most of my info came from owwm (now vintagemachinery.org) and they are a priceless resource for owners of old woodworking machinery!

Highly recommended – a good blade. I use and like the Diablo series, reasonably priced and available at HD.

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#13 posted 01-16-2015 12:14 AM

Sorry if I misunderstood…do you have the original fence and others are just suggesting an upgrade?

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knexster

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#14 posted 01-16-2015 03:26 AM

Knotscott, that is actually funny. It only makes it more comical that it went above my head and I started researching what pulley I should buy and why. Maybe when I know more I’ll be willing to trade. Reminds me of when I had a friend rebuilding a mustang that wanted the 302 out of my 84 mark VII and he convinced me swapping for the V6 from his project car would be better for me. Had he the time to make the swap before the car broke down and I sold it, I would have “upgraded” the engine, lol.

Joel, I am certainly considering a mobile cabinet for the saw, from what I have read it is worth it just for the improved dust collection.

EEngineer, thank you for the helpful links. I was looking for more specifics on how to do the cleanup on the top and that helped me. I was scrubbing away with some off brand WD40 and hoping I could find an easier way. You said you stripped the table with single-edged razor blades, can you explain how that is done? I wouldn’t want to assume anything and mess up the top.

hotbyte, I actually do have the fence, I just had it off in the picture for ease of transport. Thank you though for offering to sell me yours at such a reasonable price.

-- Don't think outside the box. The box was never there.

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#15 posted 01-16-2015 04:56 AM

Good score on the old Crapsman saw…..I have one just like it I bought new in 1985….Still have it, but some time back, I completely refurbed it, and built a saw cabinet for it…..Take a look at my Blog entitled “A new look for an old workhorse”, and you can read the story behind the re-build…..I use it across from my Unisaw mainly for crosscuts, dados and rabbits. Once you get it all cleaned up, and in good running condition, you might want to think about something like I did…...Sure made a difference…....

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