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Forum topic by ADHDan posted 01-15-2015 08:07 PM 797 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ADHDan

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01-15-2015 08:07 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question dust dust collector dust collection

I’ve got a Harbor Freight dust collector with a 50-gallon simple separator (just the basic Rockler kit). I’ve been thinking of venting it under my deck (outside the shop) rather than into the bag/filter, boring a hole in my cinder block wall and running out a PVC pipe with some sort of hood. Assuming I keep a window open to avoid problems with pressurization or combustible backflow (my shop is adjacent to our laundry room), is there anything I need to be seriously concerned about with this plan?

Also, can I just let the fine particles disperse outside? There really isn’t anything under the deck (I se it to store hardwood slabs), and my separator catches the overwhelming majority of material – so it would just be the finest particles venting into the wind.

-- Dan in Minneapolis, woodworking since 11/11.


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#1 posted 01-15-2015 08:09 PM

Shouldn’t hurt anything as long as your ok blowing air you’ve heated outside at several hundred CFM.

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#2 posted 01-15-2015 09:24 PM

As long as your shop has a big enough heater and you don’t mind the rather large increase in the utility bill, it’s a great idea. Let’s say 700 cfm heated 80°F (you are in Minn after all), the sensible heat required (not accounting for humidity, that cold air is pretty dry) is about 60,000 btu/hr when the DC is running. Not sure about your energy cost, but I think you could cover the cost of a Wynn filter in 3-4 months increased utility cost. If you have to buy a heater, the filter is an even quicker payback.

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#3 posted 01-16-2015 06:06 AM

I know a couple guys who vent outside. I’ve been to one of their shops on a cold day (below freezing) and with the DC running. there was no drop in temperature according to the thermometer (he makes a point of it). He explains that it’s because the machines and materials hold their temperature and radiate heat. It’s counter-intuitive but the guys who do it have no complaints. One or both those guys have their DC wired so it goes on and off automatically with the machines. I will eventually be venting mine outdoors.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#4 posted 01-16-2015 07:42 AM

High priced filters make sure that you only breathe the ‘finest’ dust.

Why breathe dust, when you can pipe it outside…

Put your long term health before a little cold air in the shop.

-- Love thy neighbour as thyself

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OSU55

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#5 posted 01-16-2015 12:58 PM

Unless you have a large DC (and the HF DC isn’t) plumbed correctly with appropriate hoods etc there is enough of the “finest” dust escaping the machine cut that a respirator is needed anyway. Venting outside doesn’t resolve that issue. I use the Wynn filter to preserve air flow – it doesn’t load up like a bag filter. I still wear a respirator and have a shop air cleaner.

How much the shop temp drops depends on several variables – heater size, shop air volume, shop and contents mass, and how long the DC runs. It does not change the heat flow calculation or the energy cost.

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#6 posted 01-16-2015 01:09 PM

Pipe it outside, doesn’t matter if you have a high dollar wanna be “wood dust filter” or a truck filter, you still have dust in the air. That is why you need a air cleaner( a box fan with a filter works for some). It would be up to the individual if you wear a respirator while in the shop, IMHO, I don’t see the need. I have mine vented outside, I promise you will not pull a vacuum on the shop, no great loss in ” heated air ” or other ill effects.

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#7 posted 01-16-2015 01:21 PM

I would still suggest you make it flow outside into a container of some kind.I say this if you are a home shop or otherwise.DC dust chips are good for mulching the garden but believe me ,the ones I have seen where it all just blows into the garden make a terrible mess.In that case it would not really solve your problem without creating a new one. You have to keep your yard clean. At the end of the day it is very do-able and can be done neatly too.In fact I am thinking of maybe doing such a thing myself.Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#8 posted 01-16-2015 10:44 PM

I just put my dust collector outside my shop. I have six inch duct to each tool. Exhausting air is not a big deal while heating or cooling the shop. The exhausted air is still run through the bag filter (outside) and I have a ceiling hung air filter with bag filters that runs 100% of the air in my shop in five minutes.

-- "You may have your PHD but I have my GED and my DD 214"

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