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1518 days ago |
Looking for ANY info on this. I know that as a woodworker I’m supposed to be patient, but I need at least SOME instant gratification. I have been turning bowls for a little while, and most of the wisdom I’ve garnered from folks on this site and others tells me I should rough turn the bowl to a thickness that’s 1/10 of the diameter, seal the bowl with anchor seal, and then say goodbye to it for 3 – 6 months. After that time, I’m supposed to rechuck my now much drier and somewhat warped bowl for final turning and finishing. Thanks, -- .......and if ya screw up, you can heat yer house with it...... |
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#1 posted 1518 days ago |
I have read something about drying the wood with a heat gun and competing the sanding before the woods internal moisture rises to the surface. -- BRODY. NSW AUSTRALIA -arguments with turnings are rarely productive- |
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#2 posted 1518 days ago |
Hmmmmmm…..... maybe I could swipe my wife’s hair dryer???? It’s worth a try anyway – I have 20 acres of trees – so no shortage of wood – got nothing to lose – except maybe staying in my wife’s good graces -- .......and if ya screw up, you can heat yer house with it...... |
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#3 posted 1518 days ago |
Another option is to rough turn your bowls as you have described and then soak them in denatured alcohol for 24 hours. After the soak, wrap it in a brown paper bag for 1 to 2 weeks and it should be dry. Then you can remount and do your final turn. Check out my project page, the majority of my hollow forms where turned from green wood. Some of them do move a little, but I think it adds to the organic feel to the piece. On some of the really wet pieces I wet the exterior when the piece is finished and wrap it in a brown paper bag for a few days. -- My favorite piece is my last one, my best piece is my next one. |
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#4 posted 1518 days ago |
i read an article about a method that turned a bowl in a single trip to the shop. starting from green stock he turned the complete bowl less then 1/4 of an inch thick.. because the bowl was so thin, the heat from the turnning did the rest… i can not turn one that perfect, he used an internal light source to get it uniform.. i turn one blank every week or two.. so i’ve got 30 blanks roughed out drying.. i started one today from walnut burl that i roughed out maybe a year ago.. the instant gratfication happens after you have a six month supply of blanks.. -- It's not a sickness, i can stop buying tools anytime. |
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#5 posted 1516 days ago |
thanks everyone – will try out all suggestions -- .......and if ya screw up, you can heat yer house with it...... |
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#6 posted 1516 days ago |
Google John Jordan woodturner and look for his article on turning green wood. -- Those that say it can't be done should not interrupt those who are doing it. |
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#7 posted 1514 days ago |
trifern’s approach with replacing the water with alcohol is the only way I have ever had any success. You could borrow from the hat turners technique. A turned hat starts out with wet wood that is turned to final thickness (plus a little sanding room) and using a light to determine the even-ness of the wall. The somewhat pliable and wet-like turning is then secured over a drying form and placed in an environment that will allow it to SLOWLY dry. Because of the wall thickness this doesn’t take very long. |
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#8 posted 1503 days ago |
For sanding wet wood, us 3M silicon carbide (the black stuff). -- LeRoque ("Facts, my dear Sancho, are the enemy of Truth." Cervantes) |
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#9 posted 1503 days ago |
trifern’s alcohol treatment sounds interesting. I’ve used PEG, short for poly-ethylene glycol. but that process takes a long time. -- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1 |
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#10 posted 1503 days ago |
I have also used a microwave to dry wood… -- Derrel Frankfort, KY |
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#11 posted 1503 days ago |
I have heard of using a microwave to dry wood. You have to be very careful as not to fry it to a crisp. FYI: They also use very low wattage microwave to keep piglets warm. Pigs in a microwave, no blanket. -- "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." ~ Edgar Allan Poe |
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#12 posted 1503 days ago |
Microwave the finished bowl for a few minutes – but be warned it will warp and twist. The base will become an oval shape – it can be very pleasing to the eye. There is no short term solution to a good symmetrical bowl without any cracks – I rough out my bowls, wrap them in news paper and stack them in a cool dry place. I check them after about 2 months, depending upon the thickness and type of wood, some blanks stay there for a year or more. Once you have a stack of green blanks turned, you just keep adding to them and rotating the stock. soon you will have more blanks than you know what to do with. Note: even drying these blanks slowly will produce a few blanks that can straight to the fire, because of large splits and cracks. -- Tony - All things are possible, just some things are more difficult than others! - SKYPE: Heron2005 (http://www.poydatjatuolit.fi) |
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#13 posted 1503 days ago |
Rough turn your bowl then place in the freezer at least 24 hours. Take it out of the freezer and let it sit until it thaws out Then finish turn. There may be some moisture left at that point so let it sit somemore and try again. I have not found this method anywhere on the internet—I learned it from a woodturning group I attend. (This method works by the water expanding and breaking up the wood cells thus releaseing the water.) I have had great success with this method. -- Jim, Ca, jimlbenson@comcast.net |
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#14 posted 1503 days ago |
Jim, after you freeze and then thaw the wood, does it continue to dry and warp? -- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8 |
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#15 posted 1502 days ago |
I’ll bet if you just put your turning in a frost free refrigerator, it would work. It may take longer though. Did you ever notice that if you put a piece of fruit, or an open dish of something, it will dry up. -- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1 |
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