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Forum topic by Joel_B posted 01-13-2015 05:14 AM 1144 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Joel_B

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01-13-2015 05:14 AM

A friend of mine picked up this plane.
It appears to be a no 5 jack plane from the measurements.
On the bed it says MADE IN USA behind the knob, and has the number 0569E behind the frog.
The cap iron has Stanley cast into it.
The knob and tote seem to be plastic, black or very dark blue.
The frog has blue paint on it which looks very new underneath the very rusted blade and chip breaker.
There is a ridge in the center of bed on back that I have not seen in any pictures of Stanley planes.
Its got a pretty good layer of rust on it so its going to take some work to restore it.

-- Joel, Encinitas, CA


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#1 posted 01-13-2015 05:34 AM

A much-later type of Stanley, likely a Type 22 if there were such a thing. Comes from a time when Stanley was producing castings, painting them blue and selling them (mostly?) in Canada. Might check your iron to confirm.

If you want to see what it likely looked like, LJ PK posted a pic of four of them in the comments under this post here.

Good luck on the rehab!

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#2 posted 01-13-2015 04:17 PM

I think is does match those ones painted blue and the frog is aluminum as mentioned which explains why it does not have the heavy rust that the bed has. Given that I wonder if it is worth trying to restore this plane and spend the money on a Hock blade and chip breaker or just tell him hoe got a piece of junk.

-- Joel, Encinitas, CA

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#3 posted 01-13-2015 04:39 PM

Don’t know how much work he wants to put into it, but a jack plane for rough work doesn’t need to be pristine. Clean the rust off, sharpen the iron with a camber and use it. Even a bit of pitting on the cutting edge of a cambered jack is not a real issue. If the iron is too far gone, putting a Hock iron in is overkill. An inexpensive Buck Bros set from Depot or a set from a donor plane would be fine.

That plane is probably not be a good choice for a short jointer or long smoother that requires a good iron and to be set up well, but would work just fine as a jack.

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#4 posted 01-14-2015 12:55 AM

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#5 posted 01-16-2015 02:41 AM

here is on un-restored but needs clean up.My understanding is they were made in the 60’s due to the blue body.

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#6 posted 01-16-2015 04:20 AM

The 60s blue types were #20, stained hardwood (not painted), no ribs in casting, no coated lever caps.

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#7 posted 07-16-2015 03:55 PM

I picked up a corrugated plane today marked “N5”. It is the size of a Stanley No.5 but not likely a Stanley. It has a “25” on the back of the lever cap. The lateral adjuster is flat and twisted to vertical on the end. The end that engages the iron is not a circular disc, the lever just curves up and is straight across. No other indicators that I can see with what I know. Can anyone ID this plane? Thank you.

-- LWB Waterlog

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#8 posted 07-16-2015 04:38 PM

Waterlog:
your plane is definitely a ”National”, the only manufacturer I know of that uses an “N” prefix before the numeric designation.
I’ve got a few of ‘em myself!

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#9 posted 07-16-2015 05:47 PM

Obviously gravity has no effect on you plane otherwise it would be sitting on your bench instead of dancing on the ceiling. Not having experienced this personally. I think you have a ‘one-of-a-kind’ plane.

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#10 posted 07-16-2015 05:57 PM

If its blue sounds like a Type 20 which I think were made in the 60’s.

Hyperkitten.com has a flow chart you can go through to figure it out.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#11 posted 07-16-2015 06:01 PM

How much for the purse. Its for my wife, I swear.


Obviously gravity has no effect on you plane otherwise it would be sitting on your bench instead of dancing on the ceiling. Not having experienced this personally. I think you have a one-of-a-kind plane.

- exelectrician


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#12 posted 07-17-2015 01:44 AM

Thanks poopiekat, appreciate the ID.

-- LWB Waterlog

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#13 posted 07-17-2015 12:53 PM

Waterlog:
Not a whole lot of info out there about these, but National was a Canadian Stanley affiliate, who made off-brand Stanley knockoffs for certain retailers. I’ve got about six of these, they made transitionals as well as twins to Stanley bench planes. If you’ve got a good one, it’s a keeper!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#14 posted 07-17-2015 01:48 PM

I’m in the bidding for the leopard purse as well. It would go well with my fishnet stockings and pumps. Rawr.

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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#15 posted 07-17-2015 09:02 PM

I found a “No 8” jointer plane today, it’s very nice but no other markings. It has the identical lateral adjustment lever the National has that I found yesterday. Any idea what this plane’s maker might be? Thanks again in advance.

-- LWB Waterlog

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