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Forum topic by mcg1990 posted 01-12-2015 04:58 PM 1479 views 0 times favorited 34 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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mcg1990

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01-12-2015 04:58 PM

Hi all,

Before I make an offer on this saw advertised on CL I’d like to get a little feedback, as google isn’t giving me too much.

https://memphis.craigslist.org/tls/4842957908.html

Manual: http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/user-manuals/27021/315228510-Craftsman-Parts-TABLE+SAW-manual?pathRender=fromManualTabPage

It’s new and in the box, which is nice. I know it won’t be 3hp – more like 1.5hp – but that should be all right for now with a good blade.

Also, I’m wondering whether it will be precisely as described in the manual. I know that seems a stupid thing to say, but the manual shows a whole lot of table saw for one small box.

Can anyone advise me on what I’m likely to get, and how much I should offer?

Thanks very much


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Tedstor

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#1 posted 01-12-2015 05:19 PM

If its a 315.228510, its the same saw I have. Its just a later version of the 113 series Craftsman saws that have been in use for decades. If it comes with the fence, it should be a pretty decent saw. Thats a pretty big box, I’d guess everything is in there. (compare it to the rubbermaid totes in the second pic).
$250 is a pretty good price for a NOS saw IMO. $200 would be a fair offer.

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mcg1990

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#2 posted 01-12-2015 05:25 PM

The parts list shows the fence, so I think I’m going to go for it. It seems like a real nice saw for the price, even if the power is a little lower than I’d like.

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DIYaholic

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#3 posted 01-12-2015 05:26 PM

A used one in great shape could easily run $175 – $200….
So, for NOS, it sounds like a fair price.
Be sure to open the box, even run the motor if you are able, before purchase….
You want to make sure that it wasn’t in a flood or a very humid environment.
Minor surface rust wouldn’t be the issue….
Rusted connections in the switch, rust in the motor & bearings….
Just my humble opinion….

EDIT: A thin kerf blade can help with the “perceived power issue”....

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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mcg1990

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#4 posted 01-12-2015 05:55 PM

He has accepted $200 and thrown in 4 free blades. Seriously nice fellow to deal with.

Seeing as I will be wanting these thin kerf blades, can anyone direct me to the most reputable brand(s)?

edit

99% of it’s life will be spent ripping construction lumber and 1.5” oak from an old barn.

edit x2

Come to think of it, I’ll need a new riving knife too. Are they still just as necessary with thin kerf blades, or is the risk of kickback reduced at all?

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#5 posted 01-12-2015 07:36 PM

Nice deal. Very nice in fact.
I’d think a thin kerf blade would make it ‘more’ susceptible to kickback. Aftermarket riving knives are available.
The Freud blades from Home Depot or the Marples from Lowes should make short work of construction lumber, as well as the Oak. Heck, I use a 7.25” circular saw blade on my 315 for many tasks that require thinner stock.

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DIYaholic

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#6 posted 01-12-2015 07:42 PM

+1 on what Tedstor said, regarding a good blade through construction lumber.
My C’man 113 TS with a 1.5HP motor & a Irwin Marples blade, has no problem with 3” oak!!!

That and congrats on a great score!!!

Oh yeah, one more thing….
No pictures, means it didn’t happen!!! ;^)

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#7 posted 01-12-2015 08:21 PM

Congrats on a sweet deal. That saw should come with a traditional splitter, not a riving knife….there are no aftermarket riving knives for it that I know of. A good aftermarket splitter can do a very good job though.

That saw will do well with good TK blades….for ripping 1.5” material, I’d lean towards a good 24T blade. Freud Diablo and Irwin Marples are both excellent bangs for the buck. The biggest concern I’d have with a 7-1/4” blade is that the blade kerf may be narrower than the splitter, causing binding of the work piece….be sure that’s not the case!

Tips for picking saw blades

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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mcg1990

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#8 posted 01-12-2015 08:40 PM

Thanks all! One of these days I’ll have learnt enough to give back to the community, but ‘til then I’ll just keep saying “thanks.”

I’m going to pick it up later today so there will definitely be pictures up tonight, providing it’s simple enough to put together with a spanner in one hand and a beer in the other. Don’t worry – that’s the only time a beer will be anywhere near it, but it’s my first table saw so I’ve got to celebrate, right?

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mcg1990

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#9 posted 01-13-2015 06:26 PM

Well, bad news. I get it home, spend a few hours getting things put together and bam – I read that there is supposed to be a second box with the fence and rails. I’m contacting the seller to see if he has box 2 somewhere, but if not I have to make a decision on whether to drive the 2 hour round trip to return it or buy a whole new fence and set of rails. So disappointing.

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#10 posted 01-13-2015 06:48 PM

or get some money back.but if it’s put together you could easily sell it for 200 and call it a draw. or buy a good fence.

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#11 posted 01-13-2015 06:50 PM

MCG,
Where are you located???
I happen to have a spare & complete C’man 315 TS, less the motor.
I could part with the fence & rail if need be.

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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David_H

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#12 posted 01-13-2015 07:03 PM

Well look at it this way you are going to want to replace that fence eventually anyway, based on experience there is no craftsman fence worth a darn anyway.

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mcg1990

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#13 posted 01-13-2015 11:05 PM

Well, without even prompting him the seller offered me a full refund… and I get to keep the saw. Incredible. He’s moving house so it’s not worth transporting, and then it was his father-in-law’s, and also from the looks of his current house I’m guessing $200 isn’t much of a loss to him. Still, it doesn’t take away from the incredible generosity. It could easily have gotten ugly, so massive respect to this guy!

It leaves me with a couple of options:
1) Take that $200 and buy a great fence and rails, and should I ever need to upgrade in the future I’m guaranteed to get a good price.
2) Finish building it and clean it up a little – the cellophane wrapping had melded to the table after having spent so long being wrapped up – sell it as a brand new table saw minus the fence for, I’m guessing, between $150 and $200, and use that as a theoretical coupon towards a saw that I certainly won’t need to upgrade from for a number of years.

I’m leaning towards (1), as this saw is all I really need and it’s more respectful to his generosity.

DIYaholic I’m in Brownsville TN, a small town located between Memphis and Nashville.

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JayT

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#14 posted 01-13-2015 11:15 PM

Very nice and generous of the seller.

For $200, you could purchase a new Delta T2 fence that would work well with that saw. Another option would be to try and find an Align-a-Rip fence, which is what would have been original on that saw. That fence system was also used on some Ridgid’s, so they do pop up on ebay now and then. IMHO, the T2 is a better fence design for about the same money.

If you want to spend a bit more than the $200, then it opens up a pretty broad array of fence choices.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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mcg1990

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#15 posted 01-13-2015 11:26 PM

How are the diminishing returns on price and quality with fences? I’ll only spend over $200 if it gives me considerably greater functionality, and as pretty as the 52”Biesmeyers look I’m not planning on cutting a whole of sheet goods so I’m opting for a longer run-out table for good ripping as opposed to a wide one.

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