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goodpoint

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03-17-2009 01:31 AM

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I would like to hide my screws in my ceder projects. Mostly shelves and birdhouses and I am not so sure I like the look of the screws. Will a counter sink bit hide the screw good enough? The shelves are for haning on the wall, hopefully I can get a picture to show you all soon.
Hope life is treating you all well!!

-- Twiggy


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8iowa

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#1 posted 03-17-2009 01:45 AM

One of the handiest set of tools that I have used for many years is a set of Fuller tapered countersink drills. The set comes with stop collars and plug cutters.

That being said, last year I purchased a similar set at Woodcraft. You guessed it – Chinese junk. The tapered drills were so soft they bent upon initial contact with the wood. That $20 price wasn’t such a bargain afterall.

Look for a Fuller set, made in the USA. You’ll like them.

-- "Heaven is North of the Bridge"

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#2 posted 03-17-2009 01:56 AM

I think you would be happy with the type of drill bit 8iowa describes. I have 3 counter sink bits that just ream out a space for the head of a wood screw to nestle into. I got them for a couple bucks at Harbor Freights. I got what I paid for. These are only good for rough work.

-- gjd Southcentral Wisconsin

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kiwi1969

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#3 posted 03-17-2009 03:14 AM

I just use a hand countersink and its fine. Whatever you buy make them good ones, they get more use than you would think.

-- if the hand is not working it is not a pure hand

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#4 posted 03-17-2009 03:22 AM

What you really want is a counter bore if you want to plug the holes to hide the screws.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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tooldad

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#5 posted 03-17-2009 03:51 AM

I agree with Gary. I teach the student that a countersink is a tapered hole to allow the screw set flush or just below the surface such as on a deck where you don’t want a high screw. We use counterbores in our general shop wall shelf project to allow screws to go 1/4” deep into the surface to plug them later. What students don’t realize till later, that was their first lesson on jointery, the butt joint and that it requires mechanical fastener reinforcement to stay strong.

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CharlieM1958

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#6 posted 03-17-2009 04:01 AM

There are a couple ways to hide screws. You can use a countersink bit to make the hole a bit deeper than necessary, then just cover the screw head with wood filler and sand smooth when dry. That’s the easy way.

The better way, as Gary said, is to use a plug. To do this, you have to first drill your pilot hole for the screw, then come back with a standard bit the same diameter as the plug you want to use, and drill deep enough to hold the plug. After installing the screw, glue your plug in and cut the excess off with a flush-cut saw. (A counterbore bit will allow you to do both holes at once, but you can get by without it.)

A set of plug cutting bits will allow you to make plugs out of any material you choose.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#7 posted 03-17-2009 06:57 AM

I have a set of Makita countersinks… It works well, but as everyone else has mentioned… for the “clean” look, you’ll want to do a counterbore and plug.

-- San Diego, CA

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jack1

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#8 posted 03-17-2009 08:32 AM

I like to use the tailer made plugs for a contrast on many projects. Those plugs are usually poplar and stain darker than oak, pine etc. It makes the plugs “pop” and adds visual interest. Most people think they are pegs…
If you don’t want them to show, use the plug cutters mentioned above and be sure to orient the grain, color, etc to match your field.

-- jack -- ...measure once, curse twice!

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goodpoint

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#9 posted 03-17-2009 04:48 PM

I like the counterbore and plug idea, I am going to try that, looks like I am going to lowes today. Thanks

-- Twiggy

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