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ynathans

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01-11-2015 03:47 AM

Hi,

I’m making a cabinet for the first time and am using the european style hinges. I have not made the face frame yet. The hinges I got say they are 1 1/4” overlay face frame concealed hings opening 108 degrees.

What does the 1 1/4” overlay refer to? Does that mean that I make the face frame to extend into the cabinet 1/ 1/4” past the cabinet wall? Something else?

Also, if anyone has any good general tips or a tutorial for the hinge installation for a beginner, it would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Nathan


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#1 posted 01-11-2015 03:54 AM

That means if you were using a 2” face frame that the door would overhang the inside edge of the frame 1 1/4”, leaving 3/4” of face frame showing when the door is closed.

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#2 posted 01-11-2015 06:11 AM

So does that mean that I have to be sure to build the face frame at lease 1 1/4” wide in order to use that hinge?

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#3 posted 01-11-2015 06:15 AM

I would make the face frame at least 2 inches wide.

If I were you, I would return those hinges and get the ones with 1/2 inch overlay. That way, you can make your frame 1 1/2 inches wide.

That is what I have been using for the kitchen cabinets I have built in the last year or so.

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#4 posted 01-11-2015 07:40 PM

You may also consider a min. 125 * opening as 110 degree is considered inferior in many venues, let alone 108. Unless you have a wall are cabinet return that will restrict opening further than 108 it’s not a good idea !

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#5 posted 01-11-2015 10:37 PM

In my opinion:

Hinges, overlays, degree of opening and face frame width is a matter of personal preference.
It’s had to give advice/opinions with the little information you give.

It would help to know a little more about the cabinet you’re making. What’s its size, purpose where does it got etc. Same with the hinge. What brand, model model number etc.

98 percent of my cabinets I use 1 1/2 face frames and Blums 120+ degree clip top full overlay self closing hinge and their face frame base base plate that give me a 3/4 over lay.

No one has ever complained about the 120 degree opening.

These are a 2 piece hinge that allow you to easily remove the doors.

On cabinet that go all the way to the ceiling I use a 2 1/2 inch rail.

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#6 posted 01-12-2015 02:17 AM

I think it might be worthwhile to take some scraps of wood and practice mounting a hinge on the scraps. It will help you get a much better feel for how they work before you actually mount them in a cabinet.

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#7 posted 01-12-2015 02:30 AM



I think it might be worthwhile to take some scraps of wood and practice mounting a hinge on the scraps. It will help you get a much better feel for how they work before you actually mount them in a cabinet.

- Redoak49

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#8 posted 01-12-2015 03:38 AM

I have only used 1 1/4 overlay when I used some existing doors and needed to overlay that much to make them fit. Usually I use a 1/2 overlay. The more overlay means you have to make doors and face frames bigger. Why design it that way if you can plan ahead? Do you have Forstner bits? I believe it’s 1 3/8 that you’ll need but that will be listed in the hinge instructions. I drill my mortises with a handheld drill instead of trying to put a whole door on the drill press or cutting the mortises before assembling the door. I feel like I’ll cut the mortise on the wrong side of the door is not together already.

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