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Forum topic by thor2015 posted 01-11-2015 02:48 AM 1267 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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thor2015

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01-11-2015 02:48 AM

I need to source replacement bearings for my Rikon wood lathe. However, the local bearing shops are open during hours when I am at work and taking time off right now is out of the question. I am looking for an online source that is reputable that won’t sell me counterfeit bearings.

Can anyone recommend a good source for these bearings? Thanks!


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MrUnix

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#1 posted 01-11-2015 04:00 AM

Accurate Bearing

Highly recommended and the preferred source over at the owwm and vm mother ship.
There is a readme/how-to on how to order to make Lynne’s job easier and your hassle factor reduced:
http://www.owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=93322

They will arrive in your mailbox a couple days after ordering.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#2 posted 01-11-2015 04:07 AM

What kind of lathe are we talking about?

If it were me, I wouldn’t mess with it … I would find a way to return or exchange it. In most cases, doing repairs yourself voids the manufacturer’s warranty so if you have any problems down the road, you are on your own.

In my experience, Woodcraft is pretty easy to work with.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Rick M

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#3 posted 01-11-2015 04:33 AM

Agreed. I would make the time to send it back.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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thor2015

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#4 posted 01-11-2015 05:37 AM

Thank you for the link, Brad.

While I appreciate the other feedback, I’m not really looking for suggestions from folks in an online forum on how to conduct my personal life or handle my business at work. I have already stated that I have contacted Woodcraft and am working out all of my options before I tear into anything but asking for time off right now is almost impossible. Even if they replace the lathe it would be nice to have a set of spare bearings on hand. I’ve edited the original post to keep focus on the question I need answered.

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tomd

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#5 posted 01-11-2015 05:59 AM

I called Rikon and they sent me the bearings just get the numbers off the bearings.

-- Tom D

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thor2015

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#6 posted 01-11-2015 07:02 AM

Thanks, Tom. I take it the replacement bearings from them have held up just fine for you?

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Wildwood

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#7 posted 01-11-2015 12:35 PM

Can you define counterfeit bearings?
Most bearings sold today meet ABEC or ISO standards;
http://www.engineersedge.com/bearing/ball_bearings_tolerances.htm

Normally lathe headstock bearings today come shielded. 6005-2z or 6005zz double shielded non-VS model fore & aft.

Looks like VS model has sealed bearing fore give a part # on aft assume 6204-2rs double sealed aft too!

6005 ZZ or RS bearings 20 mm ID or bore x 47mm OD x 12mm Width
6204 ZZ or RS bearings 20 mm x 47 mm x 14 mm

Difference between sealed & shielded bearings where, when & why used over my pay grade. Just know both type bearings built and meet ABEC or ISO (run-out) standards. Link above explains use and compromises.

I do not want to get into your personal life or problems really don’t care! Just remember noise from the headstock does not always indicate bad bearings, what about belts & loose pulleys?

-- Bill

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thor2015

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#8 posted 01-11-2015 01:56 PM

Bill, reportedly there are companies who are manufacturing bearings made from lower quality materials and then putting another company’s brand on not only the bearings themselves, but going so far as to duplicate the boxes to make people think they are getting a better bearing. I want to make sure that when it comes time to buy replacement bearings that I get a set that won’t break down within a few weeks of use. I’ve got no doubt that if these companies are faking the brand name, they are also faking the ABEC rating and certification.

This may or may not be true and may just be hype to get people to buy more expensive bearings, so instead of trying to sort through what is fact and what is fiction I would like to deal with someone who is qualified to tell me the differences between the $35.00 bearing and the $3.50 bearing of the same part number.

As far as the rattling, I checked all the set screws and belt to make sure they were tight. The pulley system on the Rikon 70-220VSR has two set screws in the same location- one on top of the other to prevent backing out. I checked both to make sure they were tight and seated correctly on the flat of the shaft. Also, the noise does not change when the pulley access lid is open or closed. I also removed the handwheel and headstock faceplate to rule out any vibration from those parts.

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mrg

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#9 posted 01-11-2015 03:52 PM

You can walk into your local auto parts store and get bearings they can cross reference the bearings and get them for you.

-- mrg

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#10 posted 01-11-2015 04:11 PM

I think Rikon uses a low quality bearing. I have a Rikon combination disk, belt sander and the bearings on the belt are very noisy almost like they are short on lube. Right now I wear ear protection when using it one of these days I’ll take the time and replace the bearings with a better quality.

You never know what you are getting out of China.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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Wildwood

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#11 posted 01-11-2015 04:28 PM

What you say could be true about ABEC ratings! Think my link addresses problem of quality of components and use compromises made by industry. So you want better quality bearings for your China made lathe?

There are no miniature bearings made completely in the US! All miniature bearings imported repackaged and rebranded!

What is worse cost of bearing not an indicator of quality regardless of brand. So yes ABEC & ISO ratings definitely a starting point. If look at description here for these 6204 RS, 6204 ZZ bearings on this page you know $3.29/ Bearing ABEC 1 & $4.17/per bearing rated ABEC 3 and

http://www.usabearingsandbelts.com/18m7/single-row-ball-bearings/6200-series-ball-bearings.html?i1319905:page=2

might be a better buy than $6.78/bearing on next page with no rating. Those less expensive bearing do address noise!

http://www.usabearingsandbelts.com/m7/6204%202RS%20ZZ%20NR--6204-2rs-zz-nr-ball-bearings-with-snap-ring-20x47x14.html

Good luck!

-- Bill

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TheDane

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#12 posted 01-11-2015 04:29 PM

I m not really looking for suggestions from folks in an online forum on how to conduct my personal life or handle my business at work.

Lighten up. Nobody was trying to tell you how to conduct your life or handle your business. Sorry if I offended your sensitivities.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#13 posted 01-11-2015 05:41 PM

The dane is correct !man you’re very touchy.These guys are only trying to help after all.Alistair ps wow talk about what you learn about people every day.

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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thor2015

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#14 posted 01-11-2015 08:11 PM


wow talk about what you learn about people every day.

- SCOTSMAN

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

When I clearly state that I cannot take time off work and someone responds that I should do it anyways (suggesting that I’m not competent enough to handle my work schedule and my boss) that doesn’t help. If that makes me a jerk for telling them so, then so be it.

Thank you to those who replied with advice on the bearings. I’m done with this topic now.

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Nubsnstubs

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#15 posted 01-12-2015 04:41 PM

When I clearly state that I cannot take time off work and someone responds that I should do it anyways (suggesting that I m not competent enough to handle my work schedule and my boss) that doesn t help. If that makes me a jerk for telling them so, then so be it.

- thor2015

I think I’d start looking for a new job and boss. hehehe. I didn’t read where anyone said you were incompetent. If you can’t get a few minutes at lunch time, you really do need to get a new job. Now, if you happen to work 50 miles from nowhere, then you are excused for your comment…........ ... ......... Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson)

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