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Forum topic by Konquest posted 03-16-2009 06:29 AM 2107 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Konquest

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03-16-2009 06:29 AM

I will be purchasing a DC in the next few weeks as a birthday gift. I work in a small utility area of my basement with low ceilings. Years ago my wife bought me the Delta 50-760 and it was too tall for my shop to get under pipes and ducts. For electrical, space, and height restrictions, I am looking at getting one of the 1 hp, 650 cfm units. Here are my choices: Delta 50-720 ($300 with a $100 rockler gift card), Steel City ($230), or Jet 650CT with the canister filter for $350. Money isnt the issue with any of these units, but efficiency and noise are much higher priorities. I would be connecting the DC via 4” hose to one machine at a time, so no, I am not delusional about using a 1hp unit as a central hub with miles of ductwork. I currently connect a shop vac and it is clogging and filling up way too fast, especially when face jointing boards or using the planer. If anyone has experience with any of the previously aforementioned units please let me know. I am slightly leaning toward the Jet for the canister filter and lower decibel ratings, but if I bought the Delta or the SC, I’d have some money left over to possibly swing one of the less expensive ($200 or so) air filtration units as well.

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Cory

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#1 posted 03-16-2009 01:54 PM

Good questions, Konquest. The guys were telling me last week that whatever DC system you choose, build a separator like the Thien unit. It’ll grab most, if not all, of the heavy stuff and the majority of the lightweight dust, too, before it even gets to your DC unit. Here’s the web site for the Thien:

http://www.cgallery.com/jpthien/cy.htm

FYI, I’m leaning towards the Delta unit with a home built separator. That $100 gift card from Rockler is really making the difference for me.

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Woodchuck1957

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#2 posted 03-16-2009 02:36 PM

Why don’t you just buy a aftermarket cartridge filter for the Delta 50-760 ? The cartridge filters don’t stand as tall as a bag and would probably fit under your cieling.

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JimmyC

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#3 posted 03-16-2009 03:39 PM

As Woodchuck says, I’d stay with the Delta and add a Wynn filter

http://www.wynnenv.com/35A_series_cartridge_kit.htm

which should lower the height and improve the quality of the air, and I would use it with a Thien seperator.

Save yourself some money.

Good Luck.

-- -JimmyC...Clayton,NC- "Just smile and wave boys, smile and wave"

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Konquest

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#4 posted 03-16-2009 04:14 PM

Appreciate the advice so far guys. Just to reiterate, I am looking only at 1 hp units since the 1.5-2 hp units would be too much of a draw electrically for my basement shop area. I have read good things about the Wynn filters but why not just get the Jet with the “dust dog” filter if the canister is so much better? Am I correct that the Wynn filters are mainly designed as retrofits for the larger 1.5 – 2 hp units? I don’t know how accurate the companies’ ratings are but the Delta and Steel City bag filters are rated for 1 micron. The separator lid would be a nice touch as well…maybe if I bought the delta I’d use part of the $100 card on a separator lid if that makes a huge difference. I truly appreciate all the advice. Keep the suggestions coming!

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Woodchuck1957

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#5 posted 03-16-2009 07:49 PM

If your that starved for power in your shop, your probably due for a electrical upgrade, I don’t know how tough it would be to get to your breaker box, and then how many open spots you have inside, but haveing a dedicated circuit just for your table saw would probably extend the life of it, and it would cut better. The JET with a cartridge filter is an option, but will cost you more money, unless you get lucky and find a used one. The Wynn filters I’m not sure if they have a retro cartridge filter for a 1 hp DC, you’d have to check with them. Another option is the new mini cyclone setups made by JDS, Onieda, and a few other companies that I can’t think of right now, they are compact, but I think start out at 1 1/2 hp or 2HP, I don’t recall seeing a 1 hp unit yet, and since they are new, they are also a little on the pricey side in my opinion. There are alot of options out there. You want a seperator lid if you have the room, easier to empty and saves on the impeller of the DC, Penn State Industries sells a pretty nice one.

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Toddler

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#6 posted 03-16-2009 08:19 PM

hi Konquest,

Call around to your local Lowes stores, because they’re closing out the delta line. The store in Durham has their floor model 50-720 on sale for $129 right now.

You can make a better separator top than the ones Rockler sells. I know this, because I have that one, and it’s junk. I think the Harbor freight one would be better and may change to that, or I’ll cut a hole in the center of my Rockler and put the outflow tube there.

Since I work in the garage in NC, I’ve given up on filters during nice weather and am just using the Thein baffle separator and venting the DC out the window. If you’re in a closed basement, I’d do what Woodchuck and Jimmy said and get a canister. The “1micron” bags drop your airflow too much.

Hey Jimmy, when’s this rain gonna let up?

Todd

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marcb

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#7 posted 03-16-2009 08:33 PM

I’m with those guys, spend the money on an electrician or run the lines yourself. DC is not someplace to skimp.

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Konquest

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#8 posted 03-17-2009 03:54 AM

Wound up with the Jet w/ canister. I’ll put it through its paces tomorrow and provide an update.

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