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Forum topic by RogueKyle posted 01-08-2015 02:35 PM 1360 views 0 times favorited 23 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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RogueKyle

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01-08-2015 02:35 PM

Hello all, first time post, read many threads. I’m trying to get a feel for the value of shop tools and am seeking the advice of the LJ community here. I have a craigslist posting here that has me interested but I can’t tell if this is a fair value or what to offer the guy if the machine is in good working order.

Also seeking any suggestions for pertinent questions to ask the guy to bring back better info to evaluate the saw.

Any thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.


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#1 posted 01-08-2015 03:15 PM

It looks a tad steep to me for a 15+ year old saw that’s right tilt and doesn’t have a modern riving knife. The router adds a little value if you want one. I’d want to clarify the hp and phase ratings…big difference between single phase and 3-phase. Also, if he’s only had it 5 months, where was it for the past 15 years? It looks to be in good shape, but the listing is confusing. If it’s 3hp single phase, I’d think ~ $750 is fair. If it’s 3-phase, closer to $500. Note that you’d need 220v for 3hp.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#2 posted 01-08-2015 03:27 PM

Yes I also would be concerned about the phrase “single phase and or 3 phase”. I think he may not know what that means. Do you have three phase power at your shop/home? If it’s 3 phase and you have one-phase power, you’ll need to deal with a converter. There are forums on here about that issue that you can read. Knotscott, are you sure it’s right tilt? From the pictures I thought it was left-tilt, but you certainly know more about this than I do. It’s confusing to me because it looks like there’s a box on the right side for the motor to swing into, but the blade height wheel is on the right side of the cutout for it to swing with the bevel. Maybe the blade is at a 45 degree bevel in the picture? I do share your concern about the riving knife, and would think 700-750 would be a more fair price.

-- Bailey F - Eastern Mass.

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#3 posted 01-08-2015 06:33 PM

Given the wording in the ad (the 3 phase confusion, the comment haven’t used it but it works great) would lead me to be a little leery of this one.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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RogueKyle

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#4 posted 01-08-2015 08:56 PM

Great points all, so I will ask the following

  1. What is the model number
  2. Be clear is it single phase or three phase
  3. What is the horse power rating
  4. Is it right or left tilt
  5. Who owned it before you bought it and try to get their contact info

  • It doesn’t have a modern riving knife.
  • The router adds a little value if you want one.
  • I d want to clarify the hp and phase ratings.
  • Also, if he s only had it 5 months, where was it for the past 15 years?

- knotscott

knotscott, thanks for the input

  • “single phase and or 3 phase”. I think he may not know what that means.
  • I do share your concern about the riving knife.

- MrFid

MrFid, thanks for the second set of eyes on the add. Can a riving knife be added to this machine, or will it be a permanent disadvantage?


Given the wording in the ad (the 3 phase confusion, the comment haven t used it but it works great) would lead me to be a little leery of this one.

- Fred Hargis

Thanks Fred, I was leery as well and thought to post it here for more perspective.

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#5 posted 01-08-2015 09:20 PM

Haven’t used it once sence I got it. But it works great.

If I ignore the typo, I’d want to know how he knows it “works great” if he hasn’t used it once?

-- paxorion

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#6 posted 01-08-2015 09:42 PM

I agree, lots of questions about that saw. It is definitely right tilt, though, with the adjusting wheel on the left side.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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#7 posted 01-08-2015 09:58 PM

There is no aftermarket riving knife currently available for the Jet that I know of. If you’re handy, it’s possible that you could build your own. Otherwise, there are several aftermarket splitters that you could add or build for it.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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RogueKyle

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#8 posted 01-09-2015 12:23 AM

Ok, knotscott and JayT are correct, confirmed right tilt saw. Model number is pending, said he would text it to me. Currently set up as single phase with 220v plug (so it is 3 hp). The guy does not have a 220 outlet in his garage so he has not fired it up at home. He said he ran it in the shop he bought it from. It was used by the original owner to make aquarium stands he said.

So without the riving knife and the right tilt, I am not inclined to pursue this saw further. Thanks for helping me ferret out a few more details here guys.

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RogueKyle

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#9 posted 01-11-2015 11:02 PM

So no text came through from the guy with the model number. I stand confirmed, not buying that saw.

I did find another CL post that has me interested. Would anyone care to take a look at this saw. Knotscott, I can’t tell but this looks like a similar saw to others that I read you cautioned as not having a riving knife?
thread
also looks similar to this thread

I have emailed asking for the model number for this saw also, without that can anyone identify the saw?
The fence alone makes it look worth the asking price. Any reason not to pursue this saw?

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#10 posted 01-12-2015 02:02 AM

That looks like a really nice deal for $300. It appears to be an older Delta hybrid, not a contractor saw….prolly close to 10 years old. If so, it’ll have table mounted trunnions. It also has a very nice Biesemeyer commercial fence. Cabinet mounted trunnions are generally easier to align than table mounted, but it’s not huge deal to me….it should be a once and done ordeal to get it aligned. It won’t have a riving knife, but a good splitter essentially does the same job. While I’d rather have a riving knife, I wouldn’t let the lack of one stop me from pursuing a good deal on a good saw. It’s likely that the BORK aftermarket riving knife will fit the Delta.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#11 posted 01-12-2015 03:11 AM

Yeah this one is about 100 times better looking than the first one. I’d go for it.

-- Bailey F - Eastern Mass.

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#12 posted 01-12-2015 03:34 AM

300 is a score if all is good, the fence is great.

-- -Mike, Southern California, YouTube User ( Give & Take )

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#13 posted 01-12-2015 04:29 AM

I appreciate the feed back gentlemen, I hope he responds to my email! I will proceed if it all checks out, and report back of course.

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#14 posted 01-13-2015 03:55 PM

He finally responded as Already Sold. So I missed it and will have to wait for the next deal. Thanks everyone!

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#15 posted 01-13-2015 05:20 PM

Bummer…wasn’t meant to be. If you need something to get started with, this is a nice deal….not in the same leagues as some of the other saws, but the motor is worth at least the asking price, so you really can’t lose if it runs. Not sure how close it is to you either…
http://klamath.craigslist.org/tls/4839585407.html

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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