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Charlie

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01-03-2015 06:53 PM

Local consignment shop. I knew as soon as I saw it what it was. Flipped the tag and it said $25. I almost pooped my pants. Picked it up and started looking at it and….. it was missing the whole mechanism that slides in from the end for adjusting the iron. The top adjuster was there, but not the other one. I looked through all of the pieces and parts and assorted junk in the guys booth, thinking maybe it just came apart and he didn’t know where the parts belonged.

Nope…. nothin’.... so I passed on it. If I can find parts and they’re not outrageous I can go back, but…. I was disappointed. :)


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#1 posted 01-03-2015 07:17 PM

E. C. Emmerich – USA
http://www.ecemmerich.com/

7317 Chesterfield Road
Crystal Lake, Illinois 60012
Phone: 1-800-724-7758
Fax: (815) 459-6258

e-mail: info@ecemmerich.com

HTH

http://www.ecemmerich.com/images/ece_complete_book_of_woodworking_tools.pdf

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#2 posted 01-05-2015 02:58 PM

I have one of those I bought new and it is a fantastic smooth plane.

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#3 posted 01-05-2015 05:06 PM

I fired off an email asking about parts and cost. If the parts are going to cost more than 100-125 (ish) then it’s probably not worth it as I’ve seen brand new ones at around $200 (189 to 215-ish)

The one I “found” would need the entire internal mechanism that goes in through the heel, and it MIGHT need iron, cap. lateral adjuster. Those are there and I’ve cleaned up much worse ones, but…. might have to keep that in mind.

So… we’ll see.

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#4 posted 01-05-2015 05:52 PM

I bet the parts you did find are worth more than $25. Though maybe not if in bad shape.

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#5 posted 01-05-2015 06:34 PM

Got a reply from ECE in Chicago. The parts are in stock to replace that entire internal mechanism. $47 including shipping.

If, for any reason, I can’t get that iron, cap, and lateral adjuster cleaned up to my liking, I know that is all available as a unit as well. Heading over to that shop as soon as one of my dogs comes in from hunting whatever it is she’s hunting around my wife’s garden shed. :)

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Charlie

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#6 posted 01-05-2015 09:09 PM

OK… here’s what I’m starting with…
I believe this is a 703P as I think the darker sole is the lignum vitae sole as opposed to the hornbeam sole. Someone correct me please if I’m wrong on that. Iron appears original and I’m not sure it’s ever been sharpened. I’ll know more after I clean this thing up. That’s probably going to be a while as it’s 19 degrees here and my shop is really cold! :)

Anyways…. picked it up for $22.50. If the quote comes back from ECE (I sent them photos and measurements to confirm everything) at that same $47, then I’m into this for under $70 and a few hours cleaning, sharpening and possibly refinishing the exterior.

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#7 posted 01-05-2015 11:10 PM

Very nice. I sold one of those a little while back for considerably more than $70. Congrats!!

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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#8 posted 01-05-2015 11:21 PM

Charlie…..nice snag…..let me be the first to say…...YOU SUCK!!!!!.....LOL…..you stole that.

You got to love it when deals like this just FALL from the sky.

i got a screaming deal on my new-to-me General contractor’s saw. $125 for a 50-185m1…..basially a Powermatic ts-64. I am not at all sure the guy knew what he had. A saw like this should be listed at no less than $300-$400 bucks here in Denver. I too got a great deal.

Sweet Primus Charlie….enjoy!!!

-- Banned from the creek......its official!

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#9 posted 01-06-2015 12:58 AM

I cant get over that ugly horn thing in the front, man…Im sure people love it though!

Good score!

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#10 posted 01-06-2015 03:09 PM

It does work really well. IIRC the blade is set at 50 degrees. Mine does a nice job on difficult grain….which is why it has a home in my shop.

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#11 posted 01-06-2015 05:58 PM

Yeaaaah, you certainly DO SUCK alright!

Congrats !

-- Perform A Random Act Of Kindness Today ... Pay It Forward

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#12 posted 01-06-2015 06:34 PM

If your blade is at 50 then you have a smoother :)
Mine is at 45 and the body is 240mm (about 20mm longer than the smoother).

I have the iron, cap, and lateral adjuster soaking in evaporust right now. I’m going to order the missing parts today. I might ask about how much a new blade assembly is as that would give me all new hardware.

ok, well I just ordered the whole shootin’ match. So I’ll be getting a new iron, cap, and lateral adjuster (called a “regulator”)

And I’ll still be at less than half the cost of a new one AND I’ll have a complete spare blade assembly. So I can either sharpen them both exactly the same and just use this as a jack plane or I can sharpen one like a smoother and swap them out as needed.

The guy (Dave Warren) that I spoke to in Chicago told me that once I use a wood plane I’ll be hunting them down. He said the transitional plane like the Stanley 35 that I got for christmas was Stanley’s idea for a way to manufacture planes faster. Later they found that crafting the wood bodies was taking up too much time so they eventually moved to all cast. So it was a manufacturing thing, not really a “what’s best?” thing. He said the wood absorbs a lot of vibration so it will feel smoother in action. That’s why he said I’ll be hunting them down. :)

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#13 posted 01-06-2015 07:41 PM

Started cleaning up the body. I just used 000 steel wool and some DNA to scrub off the dirt and old finish. I’m not done, but I’m also not looking for pristine. This will, after all, be a tool. A “user” not a “poser”. But because I used DNA in the scrub, I lightly oiled it with linseed oil so it wouldn’t dry out. I’ll let it sit a bit before deciding if I’m going to do any more cleaning. If I decide the cleaning is done, I’ll do a couple applications of oil/turp. When that’s dried I’ll give it some dewaxed clear shellac and maybe follow that up later with some paste wax.

That oughta do it, I think. That finishing “schedule” was what was suggested by ECE for restoration and judging by the way it cleaned up, it looks like they use shellac at the factory. And man…. that lignum vitae sole is some HARD wood!

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#14 posted 01-06-2015 08:49 PM

I’ve never seen one of these in person – in the third photo is that a hole on the end?

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#15 posted 01-06-2015 09:00 PM



I ve never seen one of these in person – in the third photo is that a hole on the end?

- ColonelTravis

Yup… sure is. There is supposed to be a tensioning mechanism in there. That’s the “missing parts” I keep referring to. Once this is all back together, the nice thing about the way these are set up is that the blade is always in tension. So adjustments become very accurate as there’s no backlash in the tensioning/positioning system. You can extend or retract the blade just by turning that big adjusting screw sticking out the top. The parts that are missing cost me $47 shipped.

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