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Forum topic by Jim Crockett posted 264 days ago 835 views 0 times favorited 28 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Jim Crockett

319 posts in 626 days


264 days ago

Yesterday, I was making a zero-clearance throat plate for my tablesaw. Since the blade, when lowered, only sits 1/16” below the table top, I inserted an old insert without a splitter, carefully aligned the new insert atop the old one, held it down with a piece of 2×4 and began raising the blade. I raised the blade a few turns, turned the saw off, and removed the 2×4 to check my progress. Since the slot was only a couple of inches long, I wanted to raise the blade some more and make it longer. But, instead of either using the piece of 2×4 again or lowering the blade and replacing the old insert with the new one, I decided to simply hold it with my hand.

I’m sure you can guess the results – the insert I was holding immediately kicked back and my hand went into the spinning blade. After six hours in the ER, bleeding profusely, and another six hours in the OR and Recovery, I left the hospital with all fingers still attached, the gaping wound and severed tendon and nerves of my middle finger and the the deep laceration on my index finger repaired. I’m typing this report one-handed because of an instant’s lack of attention and a very poor decision. Luckily, I still have all of my fingers and several weeks from now will be able to return to my woodworking hobby!

Please don’t let this happen to you!

Jim Crockett

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Bob Costello

54 posts in 547 days


264 days ago

A reminder of the need for safety is always a good thing . . . sorry about how this one came about. Living in a rural area like you do, glad you were able to get to aid and save all your pieces! Good luck in your recovery.

-- Bob Costello

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Max

14373 posts in 1166 days


264 days ago

Jim,

Boy!!!! OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sorry to hear of your accident. But glad to here that you didn’t loose any fingers and that they were able to get you put back together. When you hear of these accidents you really start to pay attention (hopefully) to what you are doing…. I wish you a speedy recovery.

-- Max "Desperado", Salt Lake City, UT

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Jim Crockett

319 posts in 626 days


264 days ago

Bob & Max, this was the intent of my message… to hopefully get everyone to be a little more careful and maybe prevent someone else from going through what I just did!

JC

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Craftsman on the lake

812 posts in 331 days


264 days ago

Aaaahhh! Everytime I read stuff like this I feel like it’s just a matter of time. I’m so glad you didn’t post pictures. The description paints a visual and a shudder and that’s enough. I always think that Sawstop saw, kind of expensive, is the saw I’ll get only after I have to. You know what I mean.

I hope all your digits work well after they heal. Hang in there.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful. http://web.me.com/deceiver6/Deceiver/Craftsman_on_the_lake/Craftsman_on_the_lake.html

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Jim Crockett

319 posts in 626 days


264 days ago

Sawstop Contractor Tablesaw ~ $1800; yesterday’s hospital visit – probably well over $10,000!

Now if we could only convince the insurance companies that the would be saving money by giving us the money to buy one!

Jim

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PurpLev

2733 posts in 541 days


264 days ago

glad to hear you’ll have full recovery.

thanks for sharing and reminding us all that these machines don’t care what they are cutting… they just want to cut through…

PS. to make a safe slot for your zero clearance throat plate, do not place the plate ovr the blade and raise it slowly – instead: place your regular plate, position the fence so that it is at the edge of the plate, raise the blade enough to cut the slot, and then run your zero-clearance place and cut a dado all across it – it doesnt have to be ‘only’ where the blade will be at… this is much safer to make the cut, and if it’s not enough – you can repeat with the blade higher – it’s a regular dado/non-through cut, and with a push stick/block is quite safe. more over -you’ll have a full cut line that goes all the way to the back of the insert and follows the cut line of the blade incase you need to fit a splitter/riving knife into the same kerf.

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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TimberMan

106 posts in 357 days


264 days ago

Sorry to hear about your accident. I wish you a fast recovery and hope you keep all functionality of your fingers.

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WoodSpanker

298 posts in 285 days


264 days ago

Dang man, yeowwwch! Sorry to hear that happened to you! Glad to hear you’re going to make a good recovery! I’ll certainly be more careful around my saw from now on… certainly until I get my insurance company to buy me a sawstop! :) Godspeed, my friend, I’m pulling for ya! Do keep us posted, will ya?

-- Adventure? Heh! Excitement? Heh! A Woodworker craves not these things!

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Hacksaw

82 posts in 269 days


264 days ago

I feel your pain.I have two that were shortened up 10 years ago now.Hang in there,enjoy the pain meds while you have ‘em and get back on the saw when they are gone.The first operation I did on the saw after my accident was 5 weeks later cutting 1” wide laminate for edge banding. Oh yeah one thing I suggest is turning the blade from your accident into a clock and hang it on the wall directly behind your saw that way every time you see that clock you’ll immediately remeber your accident and think safety.Recover well ,stay positive and be thankful.

-- teh most beautiful about a tree is what you can make out of it...even if that is only a fire!I hate raking

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oldskoolmodder

707 posts in 573 days


264 days ago

While I’m actually glad you didn’t post pics too, (as I’m trying to eat right now), My tag line says it all, and it’s a result of carelessness on the table saw, in which I spent all day and most of the night in the ER, having my thumb sewn back together.

I doubt that your hospital visit will be $10,000 BUT, (mine was $1500 2 hospitals, Ambulance ride in order for the 2nd hospital to even consider taking me and 3 follow up visits for “rehab”) without insurance sure a Sawstop sounds cheap. Hindsight and all. Common sense tells you not to do certain things, reality doesn’t always listen to common sense though.

-- Respect your shop tools and they will respect you - Ric

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GMman

1350 posts in 590 days


263 days ago

I am so sorry still you have your fingers…these things happen and after that we say what was I thinking. Thanks for posting it is a reminder for all of us

-- --<<<<<< I will not stop until I get it right. >>>>>>--

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Scott Bryan

20585 posts in 715 days


263 days ago

Jim, I have so sorry to hear about this. The only bright side of this is that by posting this “reminder” you will increase the safety awareness factor for a number of us that will undoubtedly prevent a similar misfortune. I hope you have a speedy recovery and this has just pushed a Sawstop higher on my list.

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

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Julian

688 posts in 418 days


263 days ago

Jim, sorry to heaqr about your misfortune. Next time, you should try using the fence to hold down the insert in place while raising the blade through it for the first time.

-- Julian, Park Forest, IL

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CutNRun

122 posts in 739 days


263 days ago

What I have done to make the saw cut in zero clearance inserts is to use a smaller diameter blade instead of the usual 10” diameter blade. Typically, dado blades are ~8” diameter. This smaller size clears the insert and then you can raise the blade, using the fence locked in place (not over the blade) to hold down the insert.

-- CutNRun - So much wood, so many trails, so little time

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woodnut

273 posts in 945 days


263 days ago

Man I hate to hear this has happened. Hope you have a fast recovery and can get back to making sawdust soon. Take care and heal fast.

-- F.Little

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Padre

259 posts in 382 days


263 days ago

You’re in my thoughts and prayers for a quick recovery.

-- Chip -- Manchester, Connecticut "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

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Icemizer

68 posts in 432 days


262 days ago

Hope your recovery goes well. I am saving for a sawstop as I read just to many of these on various boards.

-- Say what you mean and mean what you say.

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dalec

580 posts in 781 days


258 days ago

Wish you a speedy recovery.

I have learned from other LJ’s about how to do things safely. As a result, I have learned and avoided some dumb mistakes. I must also admit I have made my share of mistakes and hopefully learned from those experiences.

Dalec

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dusty2

111 posts in 322 days


250 days ago

I think that we all feel your pain. Many of us have had or narrowly escaped similar experiences. All we can do is learn from them so that hopefully they never repeat.

My ill experience involved my shaper and to this day I have trouble making myself use it. Don’t let this happen to you. Get right back in there – make saw dust – a bunch of it as soon as the doc says it is OK.

Good luck with your recovery.

Incidently – Pain Killers and Shop Work do NOT mix well at all.

-- Making Sawdust Safely

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buzsaw

17 posts in 280 days


250 days ago

Just over a year ago I fed the ends of my left forefinger an middle finger to the tablesaw. I haxe push sticks and feather boards but I was just going to make one small cut. OOPS I still have loss of feeling in both and they look a little worse for wear but I still have them. Get well soon and take care.
Mark

-- I work to much to turn as much as I would like to.

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Karson

25792 posts in 1293 days


250 days ago

Sorry for your accident. It make you feel like a fool. But, hopefully it will keep us safe.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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LocalMac

249 posts in 299 days


249 days ago

Yikes! Hope your healing goes well. While recovering I recommend watching the World Baseball Classic.

-- Don't tell her I'm in the shop!

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Chris

1468 posts in 884 days


249 days ago

Thank God you still have all your digits!!!! and thanks for the reminder!

-- Chris

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spanky46

736 posts in 283 days


249 days ago

Thank you for sharing your painful experience! We all have taken chances and most of us were lucky. Lets all think more and need the luck less!

-- spanky46 -- Never enough clamps...Never enough tools...Never enough time.

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Jim Crockett

319 posts in 626 days


249 days ago

->>Yikes! Hope your healing goes well. While recovering I recommend watching the World Baseball Classic.

It may be un-American but to me that sounds about as exciting as watching grass grow! Can’t do that here right now, either – still have well over a foot of snow on the ground but it is disappearing quite rapidly,

Jim

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jockmike2

7299 posts in 1139 days


249 days ago

get well soon. you were lucky. shows us all what can happen with just a second in our lapse of attention. I’ll pray for you quick recovery. mike

-- Mike. mwurm13@yahoo.com

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roman

1106 posts in 786 days


249 days ago

I feel for you dude as I did a similar one recently.

good painkillers get you through the first few days.

-- http://www.furnituremann.ca/

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rikkor

11335 posts in 767 days


248 days ago

Sorry about your accident. You have my best wishes for a complete recovery.

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