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Forum topic by Dallas posted 12-25-2014 04:45 PM 905 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Dallas

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12-25-2014 04:45 PM

I found this chisel in an old tool drawer someone left in a desk I was given.

I made a half hearted attempt to clean it up but it reminded me of one of the old Globe Master chisels that sold for $1.99/set.

This thing was so badly bunged up I had to grind off about 1/4” of the end.
This was no easy task, as I was trying to keep from overheating the steel from overheating.
Anyway, the chisel has been in the shop for about 6 years and gets used a lot for cleaning off glue runs, cleaning out mortices after drilling, and other junk that shouldn’t happen.

Yesterday I realized the chisel was still sharp after multiple years of misuse so I decided to try and identify it and have come up with a blank.

The handle is blue plastic, with Wood Chisel on one line and Pat 0229242 Made in USA
(The 4 in the number may be incorrect, it is messed up right there and I’m not sure).

Anybody have any ideas?

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!


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#1 posted 12-25-2014 09:59 PM

I put in patent and the number you listed above. I take it that is the patent on the handle material. That patent was for year 2003. I would have thought this chisel might be older than that but perhaps not. Look it up and see what you get.

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#2 posted 12-25-2014 10:04 PM

I went to the us patent and trademark office website and looked up 0229202 through 0229292. No luck. There are patents in that series, but none for a “Blue-Handled Wood Chisel”.

The url for the site is www.uspto.gov/ and there is a search box in the upper right hand corner of the very first page. Just type in the number and… When you get a result you can click on the blue “www.uspto.gov” to go directly to the patent summarized just below it. Sometimes there are two (or more?) entries, so check them both/all.

Good luck. I think the number you have is possibly incomplete or something…

-- OldEd

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Dallas

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#3 posted 12-25-2014 10:08 PM

Grandpa, it doesn’t work that way.

Modern patents start with the year, such as 20030229242.

There are the same numbers for every year since they started that method.

Unfortunately, the older system isn’t part of the search function, but thanks for trying anyway. I really appreciate it.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#4 posted 12-25-2014 10:10 PM

Old Ed, thanks, but I have already been that route.

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#5 posted 12-25-2014 11:58 PM

Dallas, by the posting Lee Valley has “how old is that tool” on their web site, which is a listing of the 1st patent numbers in the U.S. and Canada from #1 up into the 1970’s, I’m thinking 1942 vintage, but neither list shows patent #’s starting with a zero in those patent office series.

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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#6 posted 12-26-2014 12:14 AM

Thanks Glen. I will get the magnifying glass out tomorrow and see if I made a mistake on the first number.

I would take a closeup pic but I doubt my phone or any of our cameras could make it clear enough.

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#7 posted 12-26-2014 03:03 AM

HHHMMM I went back and entered that search again and went to the same place. They did put the 2003 year in front of the number. Anyway, I looked I failed. LOL I thought it looked much older than 2003 but you never know. So what good is that number if you can’t track it? I remember when I was much younger a man told me when it said pat. pending that meant they didn’t have a patent so do what you want. Some truth in that.

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#8 posted 12-26-2014 09:19 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, I checked the number with 3 magnifying glasses, my wife and 2 vermin neighbor kids between the ages of 8 and 20.
All of them said the number was probably correct as stated, but it was possible the 0 in front might be a ‘D’ when I asked.

Does that help?

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#9 posted 12-26-2014 11:46 PM

Nope.
None with a letter in front on the lists..you can look yourself, from 1836 to 1995
the Lee Valley post is under articles, “did you know” then “how old is that tool”

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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#10 posted 12-27-2014 12:25 AM

Thanks Glen.

Hmmmmmm, he said dejectedly, scuffing his toe into the dirt.

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#11 posted 12-27-2014 12:57 AM

I am thinking this MIGHT be an early one from Blue Grass Tools…....

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#12 posted 12-27-2014 01:02 AM

Montgomery Wards

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Dallas

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#13 posted 12-27-2014 04:16 PM

Hmmmm, well, whatever kind of chisel it is, it has been very useful.
I wish I could find a dozen more of them in different sizes and forms.

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