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kyfarmer

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12-09-2014 06:07 PM

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After many years with my old Craftsman Tube-bed wood lathe taking up space in my shop and only being used occasionally, I finally decided to get a little more serious with woodturning. With advancing age and some mobility problems I can more or less stay in one place and turn wood.

After watching all the reviews and discussion on the net, I purchased a Harbor Freight 12”x33” lathe last week. Hopefully it lives up to its reputation and so far I am very pleased with it considering the low cost of $232.00. It’s a big step up from the old Sears lathe.

All the turning I have ever done was between centers with a spur center or once in a while with a faceplate.
Now I need some advice as to what lathe chuck to buy. I hope to do some small bowl turning (6-8” size) and just general spindles etc. As I am on a budget and know next to nothing about chucks, I would like some advice on what to buy. The price needs to be under $150 if at all possible. Based on what I have found so far, I am leaning toward the PSI CSC2000C Barracuda Wood Lathe Chuck System. Is this a good choice for a beginner? It seems to have some good reviews and comes with several jaws. Anything else available for less money that would work for me?

Also, I would like some advice on what other accessories I should buy. I have the basic Craftsman turning tools such as 1/2 gouge, 1” & 1/2” skew chisels, cutoff tool, and a few others that I made. I would like to have a decent roughing gouge. Any suggestions on something that won’t break the bank.

Thanks in advance for any comments and suggestions. I love Lumber Jocks and have gotten a lot of good info here.

Bob Davenport

-- Kyfarmer


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Bill White

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#1 posted 12-09-2014 07:17 PM

Look at the Grizzly 4 jaw chuck with accessory jaws.
It is a VicMark clone. Be sure that you know the thread size on your head stock. If it is like my Grizz lathe, it is 1” X 12 tpi (threads per inch).
I have this chuck, and have used it a BUNCH with good results. The price is right.
BTW, the lathe has a Reeves drive system to vary the speeds. Keep it blown out and lubed well for lasting service. Do NOT try to change speeds with the lathe turned off.
It should serve you well.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Wildwood

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#2 posted 12-09-2014 10:29 PM

This lathe has a 1” x 8 TPI headstock spindle.

H6265, 3 ¾” 4-JAW CHUCK WITH 1”X 8 TPI INSERT will run you $128.90 with shipping.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/4-Jaw-Wood-Chuck-1-x-8-TPI/H6265

Same chuck Bill White is talking about because can use Vicmarc jaws with this chuck

-- Bill

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kyfarmer

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#3 posted 12-10-2014 01:42 AM

Many thanks for the good advice. I like the reviews I saw on the Grizzly chuck. I think I will order one tomorrow. Should I also buy the dovetail type jaws with it?

Bob Davenport

-- Kyfarmer

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#4 posted 12-10-2014 05:14 AM

Do the Grizzly chucks use replaceable inserts? Reason I ask, my current lathe has 3/4” threads but one day I will upgrade to a 1” and I’d like to buy another chuck.

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#5 posted 12-10-2014 11:56 AM

Guess Grizzly updated their site cannot go to catalog page. Depending upon type of turning you do would be a tossup between Pin or Dovetail jaws. I would wait and see if really need either one or both optional jaw set.

Rick, if look at the manual & parts list they give part numbers to different size inserts so make me think you can update thread insert when time comes. You might e-mail Grizzly and ask if they actually carry extra inserts for that chuck. I have not looked at Vicmarc inserts to see if they match would not doubt they do.

http://cdn0.grizzly.com/partslists/h6265_pl.pdf

-- Bill

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CharlieM1958

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#6 posted 12-10-2014 03:23 PM

I have the Barracuda2 and have been 100% satisfied with it.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Wildwood

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#7 posted 12-10-2014 09:35 PM

At 8 LBS. Barracuda 4 might be too heavy for HF lathe even at current sales price no longer bargain it was once even with extra jaw sets.

I did not link Hurricane chucks but price wise beat PSI selection of chucks.

http://www.thewoodturningstore.com/products/Hurricane-HTC100-4-Woodturning-Chuck-Dovetail-Jaws-with-Insert-62.html?cPath=5_7

-- Bill

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#8 posted 12-10-2014 11:08 PM



At 8 LBS. Barracuda 4 might be too heavy for HF lathe even at current sales price no longer bargain it was once even with extra jaw sets.

The HF lathe is identical to my King lathe and I’m turning 23 lb table legs on it right now and it is handling them just fine.

As for chucks I’m using a borrowed Oneway Talon and so far like it. I don’t have any experience with any other chucks so can’t say if its better or worse than anything else. It is pricy though.

-- James

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Wildwood

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#9 posted 12-11-2014 04:08 PM

If looking for an inexpensive 4-jaw chuck for an entry level
medium duty or midi/mini lathe let us review the specs;

3 ¾” Grizzly chuck with shipping cost $130. If bought the Vicmarc would spend $256 with shipping.

4” Hurricane chuck with shipping $160.

3 ½” Oneway Talon chuck weighs in at 3.4 pounds: In store purchase $233 without adding shipping cost.

Nova G3 & Supernova2 also in the running, Packard Woodworks has a sales price until 3-31-2015 might check favorite vendor to compare. I can buy a SN-2 for $241 with shipping from PW.

I made a mistake got Barracuda 2 & 4 confused. The 4 pound 3 ½” Barracuda 2 pre-thread 1” x 8TPI chuck would be a good fit but more expensive than either Grizzly or Hurricane even on sale. If want to upgrade your lathe later on need to buy a spindle adapter verus a threaded insert.

JMHO, do not like spindle adapters!

-- Bill

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Rick M

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#10 posted 12-11-2014 08:19 PM

If willing to spend anywhere near $200, I would buy the new Nova chuck with tool-less jaw changes.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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OSU55

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#11 posted 12-11-2014 09:39 PM

I have the same lathe and have a review of it on LJ’s. I got the PSI Barracuda2 chuck set about a year ago. It came with 3 sets of jaws, and was $153 with a coupon (+shipping). I have used all 3 sets for one thing or another. If you include the jaw sets in the price of these other chucks, I don’t think they will look like such a better deal than the Barracuda. I went through this comparison before I got mine, and when the jaw chucks were included, the Barracuda looked like the best deal. I’m no turning expert, but I’ve been pleased with the chuck. I did need to take it apart to degrease it and clean up some machining burrs, but I think that needs to be done with most of them.

As for turning tools, I have the HF set with dark maroon handles, and consider them a steal of a deal, but the set duplicates some of the tools you have. Hurricane tools and Benjamin’s Best have good quality HSS tools at very good prices. I have the 1” and 2” rough gouges from Hurricane, as well as a set of their spindle gouges, and have been pleased with their performance.

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Wildwood

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#12 posted 12-12-2014 05:27 PM

Those extra jaw set that come with PSI chucks seem like a great idea until lose or break off one socket head jaw screw. Good luck finding replacement screws or removing broken off screw in chuck body! To my knowledge PSI does not sell extra jaw screws.

-- Bill

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OSU55

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#13 posted 12-13-2014 11:57 AM

All of these jaws attach the same way, and may even be the same chuck. While I haven’t lost a screw yet, I have no doubt a suitable replacement can be had. Metric and inch countersink hex drive screws are available at box stores.

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Wildwood

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#14 posted 12-13-2014 02:35 PM

OSU55, read comments/reviews at Amazon.com

-- Bill

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OSU55

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#15 posted 12-13-2014 03:52 PM

I did before I bought the chuck and just reviewed them again. I see no mention of Jaw screw issues. There are complaints about the chuck Key tool sometimes slipping when not fully inserted.

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