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Manny_E

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12-06-2014 08:37 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question tablesaw tip

RIDGID Model # R4512 vs. DELTA Model #: 36-725

The which one is a better for a hobbies woodworker (newbie)?

Thank in advance

-- Manny-E


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#1 posted 12-06-2014 09:48 PM

Please do a search here.
Question been answered many time.
For me: Delta 100000%

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#2 posted 12-06-2014 09:52 PM

The R4512 has a long history of alignment issues that effect a fair number of the units. That alone would nudge me toward the Delta….I also like the fence on the Delta better. If you get a Ridgid that doesn’t have the alignment plague, both can be good saws for hobby work….setup and blade selection will be the determining factors of how well the saw performs.

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#3 posted 12-06-2014 11:13 PM

The Ridgid is a proven piece of Chinese crap.
The delta is an un proven piece of chinese crap.
I’d go with the Delta, hands down.

By the way I have a Craftsman 21833 which is exactly the same as the Ridgid 4512 except for paint and motor rating, so I know of what I speak.

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#4 posted 12-07-2014 12:49 AM

What is your budget? you can do a lot better!

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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#5 posted 12-07-2014 01:25 AM

Delta all the way, unless you can get a deal on something else

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#6 posted 12-07-2014 03:11 AM

I see you’re in the ATL area. Here are a few other options:

This is a silly-good deal IF everything works. You’ll need to bust a little rust though.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/tls/4783374301.html

Or offer $200 for this
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/tls/4790009859.html

Or offer $275 for this one.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/tls/4793684353.html

Or offer $400 for this one.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/tls/4788846327.html

Just pointing out that you have a lot of options besides the crappy 4512 and the overpriced (imo) Delta.

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#7 posted 12-09-2014 04:07 AM

Tedstor, thanks for the craiglist. it will be my preference to find an used one. what did you search to get this results. I looked a few days ago (i searched for table saw) and did not see any worth the time or too far. On the other hand, a bit afraid to buy a used one as i don’t really know how to identify a good bargain from a crappy one.

Also, transporting them may be an issue on my 97 ford explorer both the weight and size… or maybe not..

any tips when?

-- Manny-E

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#8 posted 12-09-2014 05:34 AM

I fit my craftsman 113 saw in a 2004 ford focus so you are good there. As far as crappy vs good deal well these machines are very simple so there is not a whole lot to go wrong. The eyeball test will tell you if it has been cared for. If you see one you think looks decent go see it make sure the blade elevates and rotates. Check the trunnions and make sure they are not cracked and the arbor assembly is in good shape, again the eye test will tell you what you need to know. You will also want to turn on the motor on and listen for any grinding noises in the motor. Spin the blade with the belt off and listen for any grinding noises.

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#9 posted 12-09-2014 06:01 AM

The Delta posted by Tedstor is a great saw, I’ve owned one exactly like it for 15 years.

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#10 posted 12-09-2014 06:02 AM

I totally agree about the Ridgid. Don’t do it! I have one and most days regret buying it. The idea of getting a nice used older TS is the way to go. More saw for your dollars.

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#11 posted 12-09-2014 12:43 PM



Tedstor, thanks for the craiglist. it will be my preference to find an used one. what did you search to get this results. I looked a few days ago (i searched for table saw) and did not see any worth the time or too far. On the other hand, a bit afraid to buy a used one as i don t really know how to identify a good bargain from a crappy one.

Also, transporting them may be an issue on my 97 ford explorer both the weight and size… or maybe not..

any tips when?

- Manny_E

- I went to the Atlanta Craigslist and searched for “table saw” and “tablesaw”. If I REALLY wanted to flip every rock, I would have just searched for “saw”. Craigslist sellers aren’t marketing gurus, and often misspell or under-identify the products they are trying to sell.
- Identifying a good bargain isn’t too hard. The four I linked are all good deals at the prices I suggested. I’d be shocked if any of the four (besides the grizzly) didn’t perform well as is. Even the grizzly is probably OK even though its looks somewhat neglected. Get the seller to turn the saw on/off. If it turns on and the blade spins….thats 90% of the battle. Any other discrepancies can usually be remedied for cheap/free.
- A contractor saw can be separated into four major components. The motor, fence, legs/stand, and the actual saw. In some cases, you might have to remove table extensions and other accessories. At this point, you could probably fit the entire saw into a sedan. An Explorer should be MORE than adequate. Even a cabinet saw should be doable after some disassembly. It might be a good idea to download and study the applicable owner’s manual before heading to the seller’s home, and bring some tools with you.

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#12 posted 12-10-2014 12:42 AM

awesome feedback Tedstor and other…

BTW, the Grizzly was sold… :(

-- Manny-E

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#13 posted 12-10-2014 06:04 PM

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#14 posted 12-10-2014 06:42 PM


Any comments on

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/tls/4790009859.html

- Manny_E

I actually have the Craftsman-badged version of that exact saw with the same fence. Very capable contractor saw. Proven design that should last for decades. The fence is ‘good’, but not ‘great’. I ultimately upgraded mine to a Delta T2 fence, mainly because I already had the T2 on-hand. If I didn’t already have the T2, I probably would have stuck with the stock fence indefinitely.
The stamped steel wings are kind of cheesy, but served their purpose (if only barely). I found someone selling an old Craftsman 113 for $50. I took the cast iron wings off that donor saw, and installed them on my newer saw. Then put the stamped steel wings on the old saw and sold it for $100. WooHoo!!
The mobile base is a VERY nice feature, especially if you’re like me and need to ‘park’ the saw against the wall of your garage when its not in use.
$250 isn’t an outrageous price. Those sold for $500 new (not counting clearance). If I wanted/needed a saw immediately, I’d probably pay it. But $200 would be a good deal, and anything less tha $175 would be a steal in my opinion.
I should also add that between the link belt and zero clearance insert, it appears that this saw was owned by someone that knew how to treat a machine right. Condition looks clean and the accessories add considerable value. Ask about the included blade. If its a name brand blade in usable condition, that adds to the value equation as well.

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#15 posted 12-10-2014 09:10 PM

Looks like a very fair deal on a very capable saw. I’ll echo Tedstor on every point….it appears to have been owned by someone who knew how to setup and treat a saw right, which is huge for a used tool IMO. Can’t hurt to take a look and negotiate a little, but you’ll be hard pressed to find a nicer saw for that price anytime soon.

As fate would have it though, there is an older Powermatic Artisan contractor saw with a Vega fence for $275. It’s in rougher shape than the Ridgid, but has cast iron wings, better fence, and likely a beefier motor. It could give you another option if it’s in functional shape….the rust will come off pretty nicely, but look it over good for other possible damage, as it doesn’t appear to have been as well “loved” as that Ridgid. Rust and somewhat neglected condition make excellent bartering points….those flaws can work heavily in your favor if you’re willing to spend some time cleaning it up.

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