Forum topic by Joel_B | posted 12-05-2014 08:26 PM | 978 views | 0 times favorited | 11 replies | ![]() |
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12-05-2014 08:26 PM |
I read here in another thread to apply poly type finishes using gloss until you get to the final coat to apply satin or semigloss. I think this was in reference to Arm-R-Seal but I am wondering if it applies to any poly finish. It makes sense to me that if you applied multiple coats of satin then it might reduce the clarity of the wood grain. -- Joel, Encinitas, CA |
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#1 posted 12-05-2014 08:55 PM |
IMO, it applies to any varnish you apply, for the point you mentioned. -- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress. |
#2 posted 12-05-2014 09:44 PM |
I have never used wipe on poly, but as above I think it would be true based on the number of costs -- Norman - I never never make a mistake, I just change the design. |
#3 posted 12-05-2014 10:27 PM |
Yep! If you’ve gotta use poly, apply gloss for depth, then either rub out or apply a less glossy top coat. -- bill@magraphics.us |
#4 posted 12-05-2014 11:49 PM |
Yes it’s true, but it depends on how thick of a film thickness you want. This applies to any “clear” or translucent finish – poly, lacquer, varnish, etc. Typically for wipe on 2-3 thin coats is what one is after, for that “close grained”, hand rubbed oil look. My tests didn’t show much difference with a thin film. Different story with a thicker film. For smooth woods, like maple, I’ve rubbed out fairly thick film poly finishes done with all satin and was very pleased with the clarity. Not so much for heavy grained deep pored wood like oak since the amount of finish is so much greater to fill the pores. Your test results may vary. BTW, wipe on is just thinned poly. It’s much cheaper to just buy the regular poly of whatever brand you like and thin with 50% mineral spirits. |
#5 posted 12-06-2014 12:06 AM |
BTW, wipe on is just thinned poly. It s much cheaper to just buy the regular poly of whatever brand you like and thin with 50% mineral spirits. I keep reading this but not sure how valid it is. -- Joel, Encinitas, CA |
#6 posted 12-06-2014 02:54 PM |
Yeah, California is a different planet. As long as the ms isn’t the milky “eco-friendly” crap, it will work fine – I used Klean Strip until the local Lowes changed to Crown, both work the same. Here in Missouri: Qt Minwax poly 10.77 Calculated out that’s $7.33/qt mix your own vs $23.94/qt wipe on (plus taxes). That’s how valid it is here. I just checked HD online and they only had pints of wipe on listed – I think you may be confusing sizes, etc. |
#7 posted 12-06-2014 03:08 PM |
BTW, wipe on is just thinned poly. It s much cheaper to just buy the regular poly of whatever brand you like and thin with 50% mineral spirits. California issues aside, if you look at the MSDS for almost any of the store bought wiping formulas you’ll see the thinner component to be closer to 70%. That requires a lot more coats to get the same amount of resin onto the work piece. Also (just guessing) many of us would by MS in gallons since it has so many other uses…to save more using the cheaper paint thinner works just as good. -- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress. |
#8 posted 12-06-2014 04:49 PM |
Your right, I was wrong on the sizes, the wipe on is a pint. -- Joel, Encinitas, CA |
#9 posted 12-06-2014 04:51 PM |
What about naptha, can you get that out there? -- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress. |
#10 posted 12-06-2014 06:24 PM |
It appears this product is available to you: I think this is clear and not the milky “green” stuff, and should work fine. I think you might be confusing the different products. |
#11 posted 12-06-2014 06:35 PM |
Yeah it looks like I can that one at HD. I guess I just need to avoid the one that says “green”. Thanks -- Joel, Encinitas, CA |
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