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12-03-2014 08:54 PM

I have a Dewalt 735 – and by the way I LOVE it. Great planer. My problem however as you all know is that it creates volumes of chips. As a short term solution I ran a dryer vent hose to a plastic trash can fitted with a plywood top. I used a 90 degree plastic fitting inside to try and create a small cyclone effect. I then fitted an old shop vac filter to the top to give the air somewhere to get out. I’ve discovered that the inside of the filter quickly gets clogged. Thus, I’m looking at the Oneida Dust Deputy. For $50 or so it’s cheap enough for me to afford. My question is this: the 735 has its own internal blower and I’ve read some online that suggests not using a shop vac. I can’t seem to find anywhere online that talks about this although I saw one YouTube video set up this way and chips didn’t seem to be flying out the open top. Can I use this set up? Anyone tried it? Thanks!


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#1 posted 12-03-2014 10:19 PM

I wouldn’t count on it. I have the Dewalt 734 (also an excellent option) and had a Dust Deputy that an uncle outgrew in his shop and even with one of the largest Rigid vacuums they make hooked up to it, the poor thing choked. It works ok at first but not as much of the vacuum’s suction makes it through the Dust Deputy as you really need in the first place and even at that the filter fills up with the finer dust rather quickly and kills what suction there is. The better (finer) the filter on your vacuum the quicker it will clog and then larger shreds from the planer will just clog together on the cutting head and in the hose.

I had the same problem with budget (also limited space and height) when I went looking for dust collection and settled on the 1 hp Grizzly and love it. (I think any 1 hp model would work just as well.) It’s a one man show at my shop so rolling it from tool to tool as I work isn’t really an issue. 1 hp is plenty to take care of the 734 so I think you’d be fine using it (or similar) with the 735. The only catch is the shavings tend to get caught around the metal cross guard a lot of dust collectors have at the inlet to stop big blocks of wood or bolts or what have you from slamming into your impeller. If you don’t intend on using your dust collector as a floor sweep or to clean your bench those are not really concerns you have. I cut the cross guard out of mine and just remember what I can and cannot use it for.

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#2 posted 12-03-2014 11:15 PM

.Run the DW735 without the shop vac.
The way I do it:I remove the lid/ DD from the 5 gal. bucket , put in a larger garbage can,put a big towel over the can so the saw dust doesn’t fly all over,the blower will do the job of the vacuum.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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#3 posted 12-03-2014 11:45 PM

I have done it and it works fine. I found a video on YouTube that gave me the idea and no issue of the planner clogging up.

http://youtu.be/sLeVMqren-4

I have done this exact same thing. Planned approx 400 feet in one afternoon and no issues.

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#4 posted 12-03-2014 11:49 PM

Yeah that’s the video I was talking about. Hard to believe chips don’t come flying out.

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#5 posted 12-03-2014 11:58 PM

They can’t because they are in the can… Only air comes out… Not too much of a problem for fine dust either as the planner is not a big maker of fines.

Works like a charm. I am migrating to a bigger dust collector soon so I may make a Thien baffle for it instead. Or buy the super duty. Trying to go all 4” hose in shop.

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#6 posted 12-04-2014 12:08 AM

I’m jealous….

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#7 posted 12-04-2014 02:02 AM

Dust Deputies are worth their weight in gold (okay, that may be an exaggeration). However, compare their inlets to the port on your planer. The Deputy is much smaller and too restrictive.

For a planer, table saw and so forth, you need some pull power. Not just force, but air movement.

A vac and the Deputy would be better than nothing, since chips catch on the rollers and cause problems.

I run a Super Dust Deputy on my four bag, three horse and it’s great. Not as good as my three horse Oneida cyclone, but great.

My little Deputy lives on the end of my shop vac though, where it does its best work.

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#8 posted 12-04-2014 02:40 AM



Dust Deputies are worth their weight in gold (okay, that may be an exaggeration). However, compare their inlets to the port on your planer. The Deputy is much smaller and too restrictive.

For a planer, table saw and so forth, you need some pull power. Not just force, but air movement.

A vac and the Deputy would be better than nothing, since chips catch on the rollers and cause problems.

I run a Super Dust Deputy on my four bag, three horse and it s great. Not as good as my three horse Oneida cyclone, but great.

My little Deputy lives on the end of my shop vac though, where it does its best work.

- Kelly

The port on the back of the dw735 is only two inch.

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#9 posted 12-04-2014 03:24 PM

I use a vacuum attached to the 735. I have the exhaust of the vac going outside. I am fortunate that I live in the country and the dust and small chips go outside on my property. Empty vacuum about once a month, pick up any chips that came through and toss them in the shop wood stove. For me, this works really good.

-- 1tatonkajim

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docspencer

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#10 posted 12-04-2014 03:32 PM

So the vac doesn’t create too much suction? Some things I read online suggest it would be a problem. I guess I could try that and see if it works for me. We live in the country as well. How do you exhaust the vac outside? Summer would be easy, but what about during the winter?

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#11 posted 12-04-2014 03:39 PM

No, the vac is not too strong. I have a shop and I run the exhaust out through a hole I drilled in the wall. Doesn’t matter summer or winter. It really gets rid of the dust and chips. I have never had the 735 get clogged since I started using the vac. several years now. the hose through the wall also is used for general cleaning. I hace two way hook-up. Shut one side down and open other.

-- 1tatonkajim

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#12 posted 12-04-2014 03:41 PM

Do you have a picture or diagram of this set up? Also, do you use a pleated filter in the vac?

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#13 posted 12-04-2014 03:50 PM

No pictures. No filter. I took the filter out so nothing would stop the flow and wouldn’t have to clean the filter every time I use the 735. All heavy “chips” stay in the vac and small chips and dust go out side.

-- 1tatonkajim

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#14 posted 12-04-2014 03:59 PM



I have done it and it works fine. I found a video on YouTube that gave me the idea and no issue of the planner clogging up.

http://youtu.be/sLeVMqren-4

I have done this exact same thing. Planned approx 400 feet in one afternoon and no issues.
- misterbig


I have tried a few different methods using DD/DW735 but the way the plastic drum is used in that youtube video seems to be the best solution ,very clean and also very easy to set up.I will definitely give it a try.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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#15 posted 12-04-2014 04:02 PM

distrbd – Where’d you get the plastic drum?

oldie – I misread your post. So you don’t use the DD – just the vac?

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