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Forum topic by WadeHolloway posted 12-03-2014 08:18 PM 1544 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-03-2014 08:18 PM

I have spent most of my free time the last two days cleaning the shop and trying to get all the saw dust cleaned up. I have dust collection but it is really on my planner, router table, table saw and thing like that. What I have been cleaning it dust from all of the sanding I do. There seems to be no good way to get sanders hooked up to any type of dust collection. I tried vacuum cleaner but I can never seem to find any adaptors to hook up the sanders to the vacuum. So I thought about all of the Festool type systems. Seems there are several of those type systems out there but I have not found any real information on how good these systems are. I know the Festool is a very expensive system. Does anyone have any type of dust collection set up for sanding in their shop. I would be very interested in how or what kind of system yall have to keep the dust down from sanding. My shop is set up in my garage so space is limited. I have to do something about all of this dust. Any help or guidance will be greatly appreciated.

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#1 posted 12-03-2014 08:45 PM

What kind of sanders do you speak of. If the issue is just hooking them up, any the of $50-100 DeWalt, Bosch, etc. come with an adapter for a shop vac. They are quite efficient in picking up the dust. The next task is to make sure that your shop vac has a good filter.

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#2 posted 12-03-2014 08:52 PM

I just recently got a Milwaukee ROS (always had a Dewalt before that) I tried to hook up the shop-vac hose to each of the sanders but the hose seems to always “hang” on the edge of my bench.
It was a royal pain to try and hold the hose over my shoulder, and every time the hose got hung on the edge it would almost pull the sander out of my hand. I finally just gave up and rely on what little the dust bag that comes with the sander catches.

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#3 posted 12-03-2014 08:52 PM

I have the DeWalt low-profile ROS, which I believe (at the time I purchased it a few years back) was a clone of the Porter Cable one. I have it hooked up to my shop vac & dust deputy, and use abranet sanding discs, and there is no noticeable sanding dust left over. I took the stock bag off, and put an adapter on to fit the shop vac hose.

Edit : I don’t have the issue of the hose hanging on things. I hold the sander with one hand and support the hose with the other. If I don’t, the weight of the hose causes more pressure to be put on the rear of the sander than the front. By holding the hose, the back is supported.

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#4 posted 12-03-2014 09:34 PM

You could put a sleeve over the hose to smooth out those ribs, but I also hold one end of mine with my hand (and I have that sleeve over my hose). As for dust collection, I have a Bosch ROS and a PC, and they both get almost all of it hooked to my vac. In fact I have to vent the vac a little to keep it form sucking the sander into the work piece (same effect as leaning on it real hard). Here’s what that sleeve looks like, BTW. This is that expandable stuff sold by a number of electrical outlets, it’s used for bundling wire. I got the 2” size (I think) and just fit it over the hose.

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#5 posted 12-03-2014 10:32 PM

I have a Dewalt Random orbit, the dust adapter for it is elongated as well is several of my palm sanders. My Porter Gable Belt sander does have a round port but none of the adapters I have found will take it to the right size hose.

Maybe I just need to grab a hand full of the new sanders and head over to the vacuum section and try them all out. :)

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#6 posted 12-03-2014 10:48 PM

I haven’t perfected the “ROS to Hose” connection issue.
I did find a “hose support” solution….
A tad “Low Tech” but it worked

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#7 posted 12-03-2014 11:42 PM

Proper dust collection can be an expensive endeavor to do right.

Fine particles are the real danger in the wood shop and it takes very good filtration to keep it out of the air and it takes a lot of CFM from your DC to capture it at its source.

Most shop vacs do not provide safe filtration since they do not usually filter down to the 1 or 0.5 micron.

A dedicated sanding station\downdraft table would also go a long way in reducing the dust in your shop.

If your goal is to reduce the health risks in the shop, then start thinking about a larger DC system with a separator\cyclone, high flow filter, and several horse power to provide adequate flow.

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#8 posted 12-04-2014 05:33 AM

DIYaholic beat me to it. I was going to suggest suspending the hose. But the downdraft table idea is worth consideration too.

I also like the idea of using the heat-shrink tubing to make an adapter, as I have several connection issues myself. Heading for the hardware store tomorrow.

Wow. What a lot of great ideas in one little thread!!

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#9 posted 12-04-2014 06:52 AM

I have used my ROS 2x’s (i’m a beginner). I soon realized, a downdraft table with a shop vac, dust collector machine, or even a paper filter is the only way to catch the stuff. So, my last project, I had some real estate to use up. Out came a downdraft table. Took an afternoon to construct. So can you. Granted, mine is hooked up to a 6” HVAC and 3HP grizzly dust collector… but many out there are hooked to either a 4” duct and dust collector or shop vac’s.
Knowing that fine dust will be in the air no matter what I do, I also picked up a Grizzly air cleaner. Lastly, you could always go respirator route (which is probably the 99.9% safest out of all).

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#10 posted 12-04-2014 10:37 PM

This sounds bad but I am not really doing this for safety reasons, I am just tired of getting the dust on EVERYTHING :) It really looks like I need to get down and compare the vacuums like Bosch and Festool and couple of others to see which one will actually be the best vacuum and just start replacing my sanders with some newer ones that will connect easier. If I am going to do this I might as well do it right and get something good. Thanks for all of the ideas.

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#11 posted 12-05-2014 01:04 AM

If you have limitless funds the Festool system(s) would be hard to beat.

There are HEPA filter canisters to fit most shop vacs. And HEPA is what you need. The cartridges plug pretty fast unless you also use a bag in your vac.

My ROS is a 5” model by Ridgid. It has a dual adapter built right on it that will connect directly to a shop vac hose of either 1 1/2” or 2” diameter. If you happen to have a Ridgid brand shop vac the hose will actually lock onto the sander’s adapter.

An additional enhancement is to use Abrinet sanding disks.

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#12 posted 12-06-2014 03:04 AM

I posted my solution another forum a few months ago.

It works well and I’m a happy camper on the experience and the cost. The vac isn’t HEPA, but making that change doesn’t mean throwing out everything and starting over. After that post I found out about and adapter from FEIN that I bought ad Woodcraft for (I think) 6 bucks. That has also proven to be a good answer to the match-up problem. One of the posters was planning to hook his vac from the ceiling and drop his hose to the work, but he never posted his results.

The only thing I hate worse than sanding is the dust from it.

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#13 posted 12-10-2014 09:29 PM

To the Mirka users, will they hook up to any vacuum or do you have to or need to use theirs.

I have been playing around with the sanders and PC will hook straight up to the vacuum, but having a hard time getting any adaptors that will work hooking up the Dewalt sanders.

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#14 posted 12-10-2014 09:40 PM

These are what I have for my Craftsman sander and it works great!

And depending on your 2-1/2” hose-end connector, you may have to buy a 2” rubber union coupler from like Lowes or HD. It works great for me and am glad I finally have it set up.

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#15 posted 12-10-2014 09:49 PM

Festool can bring out some strong opinions because of the price. For me it was a very large splurge. I bought one strictly for the dust collection because I work in my garage and the fine dust was driving my husband bonkers. I am thrilled with how well the dust collection works on the Rotex. If it vanished tomorrow, I would start saving for another. I’m sure there are other ways to deal with sanding dust, but this works for me.

Good luck.

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