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12-02-2014 08:51 AM

I’m thinking of buying this saw soon, and was wondering if anyone has one or has used one:

http://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/power-tools/saws/masterforce-10-in-contractor-table-saw-with-mobile-base/p-2087053-c-9082.htm

From the display model they have at the store, it seems pretty solid (and being that it’s a display model, I think that says something. Big Box employees are not exactly known to put something together very well.)

The fence moves easily and smoothly, yet you lock it down it doesn’t move one bit. The miter gauge is a good fit in the slots, no slop like you see on other saws (they had a very cheap model next to it, and I could wiggle the hell out of the miter gauge on that one). The cranks turn easily and adjusts the blade height/angle without any effort, and locks into place without any problem.

I’ve read some limited reviews of it, that it supposedly is the same saw as Craftsman/Rigid makes, etc., but I’m not convinced it is the same saw (VERY similar, yes…but that doesn’t make it the same saw).

I’ve never owned a table saw before, so I want a good one but without spending a ton of money, and this one is just within what I can afford right now. If it’s a lemon I would like to find out BEFORE buying it and struggling with it, or worse, losing a finger or twelve on the darn thing, lol. But from what I can tell (again, just the display model) it seems like a decent saw for the money. Thoughts would be very helpful!

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#1 posted 12-02-2014 01:47 PM

When I saw the saw my first reaction was it was the same as the ridgid and craftsman saws, if that is the case you are rolling the dice, All reviews I have seen of the delta at lowes have been positive and it has a pretty nice fence aside from the split front rail.

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#2 posted 12-02-2014 01:57 PM

I have no direct knowledge of this saw, although it looks to be serviceable,. Two things jump out at me though, it doesn’t have cast iron wings and the fence rail is split. I also can’t see from the pics or description whether it has a dust collection port.

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#3 posted 12-02-2014 02:09 PM

I also noticed this saw after buying a R4512 and I’d bet they are the same saw. Yes, different panels and colors, but the guts are the same. The price on the Masterforce was higher than you can get the R4512 for (maybe the Craftsman too, not sure).

As David pointed out, the Delta at Lowe’s is a good looking saw. I thought the overall fit and finish were better than my R4512 and the fence looked better.

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#4 posted 12-02-2014 02:13 PM

Actually, after searching through this forum early this morning, I did locate/stumble across the R4512:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-13-Amp-10-in-Professional-Table-Saw-R4512/202500206

I’d have to drive about 65 miles to get it, but a) it’s a little less expensive, b) it’s a little lighter, and c) it’s got a better warranty. Any complaints on your saw?

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#5 posted 12-02-2014 04:21 PM

from what I’ve read run, run fast away from the R4512.
I’m not much for the master craft brand,seems really nice then a couple months later something breaks on every master craft product I have bought. For the price you can by a nice used delta uni-saw if you watch CL and flea bay. 1 3/4 hp isn’t that much.

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#6 posted 12-02-2014 04:22 PM

from what I’ve read run, run fast away from the R4512.
I’m not much for the master force brand,seems really nice then a couple months later something breaks on every master force product I have bought. For the price you can by a nice used delta uni-saw if you watch CL and flea bay. 1 3/4 hp isn’t that much.

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#7 posted 12-02-2014 06:13 PM

I like my saw just fine. Only been woodworking for less than a year and it has served me well so far. There were alignment issues with this model early on, but I guess it was fixed by the time mine was made because I was able to align it without a problem.

It is not a high end saw, but this saw is a capable saw in this price range. If you’re just starting out and have a budget then this is a good option among the new market if you don’t want to wait for a deal on a used machine. Some things I’ve done to enhance the saw’s performance is add a thin-kerf 50T Freud blade, Jessem feather boards, push pads, digital angle gauge, digital protractor, and built a crosscut sled. Upgrades like that will help to get better results from any saw though.

You’d want to consider thin kerf blades for any saw running this power range. I also have a Freud 24T ripping blade and have ripped 2” thick hardwood without a problem.

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#8 posted 12-02-2014 06:31 PM

Don’t chance it. Or be prepared to return it. Wish I had returned mine.

The main problem was raising and lowering the blade caused the rear of the blade to move toward or away from the fence, so you could adjust the trunnions to be ok, then if you changed the height it went out. I liked the saw, it was just too much of a pain to make a cut.

Edit: I had to file where the 2 parts of the front rail met to get the fence to slide over the joint. Ridgid sent me replacements, but none worked right.

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#9 posted 12-02-2014 07:28 PM

Thanks, guys, this helps more than you know. =)

Just as an aside, can anyone recommend a good portable saw? Like a contractors saw or the like? I’d prefer to have something that, during the winter months, I can move inside to my basement “shop” and then move it back outside to the garage/shop during the summer months. It’s way too cold to be out there in the winter and until I get it insulated and heated, it’s really not an option (we had it built just two years ago, before I even thought of doing a hobby like this, so I didn’t get it done when I had the chance). Obviously, if I went with a saw like we’re talking about above, mobility (from one building to another) isn’t an option.

I’ve been keeping an eye on eBay for the past year, but every saw I see on there for sale scares the living hell out of me, lol. “Used” isn’t quite the word I’d describe them as, haha. You just know someone is getting rid of it because they lost a finger and their wives told them to.

-- Brian https://www.facebook.com/briansworkshop

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#10 posted 12-02-2014 07:36 PM

You live too far away, otherwise a Emerson/ Craftsman 10” Contractor saw would be sold for ~$100…

As there is NO WAY this is gonna fit in the Dungeon Shop…

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#11 posted 12-02-2014 07:54 PM

I see table saws every now and then on Craigslist, but they are almost always the cheap ones (the ones around $75-100). I’ve looked at those at the various stores, and they are just flimsy as heck, so no thanks. I saw one a few months ago that had so much rust on it you couldn’t even tell it was a table saw, it had missing parts everywhere, and so on.

My basement is pretty big, the issue is lugging it up and down the stairs. There is no way I alone could do that with a 300lb saw. I’d prefer to have the bigger saw (as linked above), but I know that when winter sets in, I probably am not going to go out to the garage to use it, no matter what I’m working on.

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#12 posted 12-03-2014 12:00 AM

The last I knew the Menards was the same, or very similar to the R4512 and 21833, and all have had many complaints about the dreaded alignment issue. It seems that every time I read that its fixed, someone buys a new saw with a recent build date that still has the issue. Since the Delta and Steel City saws are viable options, I wouldn’t chance it with the Ridgid clones.

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A saw like that Emerson contractor saw (the portables are “jobsite saws”) can be moved by a hefty guy if you remove the motor, wings, fence, and base and get it down to the main body that weighs ~ 100#. It’s about an hour’s work….really not a horrible job to do. (you can leave the insert in! )

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#13 posted 01-13-2015 09:46 PM

I think I’ve decided on this one:

http://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/power-tools/saws/10-portable-jobsite-table-saw/p-1685113.htm

It’s small, but not too small, and it’s portable, meaning I can use it in my garage shop during the nicer months, or bring it to the basement during the winter (at least, until I get the garage insulated and heated). I don’t think I’ll use the stand, I think I’ll build a dedicated station/table for it. Based on the reviews I’ve read and seen, it seems like a good saw to start off with and won’t break my budget.

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#14 posted 01-13-2015 11:38 PM

The area in front of the blade looks pretty small to me….......

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#15 posted 01-14-2015 12:40 AM

I’ve actually seen this saw on display at the store. It is small-ish, smaller than the other I linked to at top.

-- Brian https://www.facebook.com/briansworkshop

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