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Forum topic by damjensen posted 11-28-2014 07:58 PM 1184 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-28-2014 07:58 PM

Topic tags/keywords: rant

Man, I need to get rid of this frustration !

Why is it that like every woodworking video these days is doing a giveaway. Amazing prizes. Cool stuff. All you have to is sign up. Blah blah blah. And with real fine print: Must be legal resident of USA etc etc.

Last time I checked, a MicroJig Grr-Ripper was not region compatible outside USA. Like it won’t work in 220V equipment ? Or with metric ?

I absolutely HATE these rules. Do you Americans know that you have LOTS of audience outside your country that pay your ad money as well, with clicks and views. At least recognize that we are here !

Ahh. That felt good.

Sorry for any toe-stepping.

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#1 posted 11-28-2014 08:57 PM

I dont work for any of these companies, and I’m not defending anyone here, but just a thought.

It MAY have to do with shipping things out of country. Some things have to go through customs and have fees added. Other items may have taxes or tariffs added. I know I sent a small box to someone in Canada a while back and I must say I was absolutely SHOCKED at how expensive it was to ship something so small from here to Canada. ( The shipping actually cost MORE than the item )

I also used to deal a LOT on E-bay and one time I had someone from Argentina win one of my items. His winning bid was just shy of $100, and he didn’t tell me he was from another country until AFTER the auction ended. I checked both UPS and the Post Office and found it was going to cost me almost $300 to ship it, so I sent him an e-mail and told him there was no way I was only going to get $15 from him for shipping on an item that was going to cost $300 to ship.
He gave me my first ever “Negative” on E-bay and even after 6 months of e-mailing back and forth with him and E-bay they still wouldn’t take it off my record.
After that, I always listed my auctions at “Ships to USA only!”

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#2 posted 11-28-2014 09:05 PM

JoeinGa, oops, I should have read closer.

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#3 posted 11-29-2014 01:28 PM

Mark Spagnuolo has a very good explanation as to why he doesn’t ship internationally on his website, and it’s pretty much in line with what Joe said.


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#4 posted 11-29-2014 05:27 PM

A couple of years ago I shipped about 5 – 7 (I don’t remember the #) CDs to my good amigo bluekingfisher out side of London, England…These were some old woodworking vids of the New Yankee Workshop and a few from Woodsmith Shop…...It costs me right at $18, and it took almost a month for him to get them….They had to go through customs, taxes, etc…...Seems like a couple of more fees, but don’t remember…..He got them ok, but it’s a due process to mail things overseas…..I had him a 24” planer, but decided to keep it>>>>.lol….<<<<

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#5 posted 11-29-2014 10:49 PM

Well, I tried to discuss with Marc about this. But he won’t even offer items that don’t ship at all (such as Guild memberships or similar) to viewers outside USA. Because of “rules”. I could understand if there was some warranty or safety issues. But for intellectual things. Gift certificates. etc. I just don’t get it.

And for shipping – here I also do not see the issue. If I were to ever win something from the USA, and shipping was an issue, I would offer to PAY for the shipping. It’s 2-3 times as expensive to send things to USA from here, than it is the other way.

Man, regional protectionism is SO frustrating !

At least I am (still) allowed by YouTube to watch imperial content ;)

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#6 posted 11-29-2014 11:36 PM

damjensen, we also know that we have the homeland security crap to deal with. It is easier not to deal with it than it is to try to work through it.

I know people in some of the border provinces that have post office boxes or friends who accept packages in the US, then about once a week or when they know something is coming in, the cross over to our dark side and collect the piece.

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#7 posted 11-30-2014 06:38 AM

May I suggest one generic bit of advice?
On international shipments, your local carrier/forwarder will often slap on an additional fee for ‘forwarding, customs, or broker charges’. The offshore recipient is often caught off-guard, and tells the delivery agent on the spot that he is refusing delivery. The package goes back to the shipper, who cannot recoup his prepaid shipping cost. Depending on the carrier, the shipper may also be liable for return shipping cost as well. How many times does a merchant have to absorb shipping costs before he too changes his policy to domestic customers only? Here in Canada, I have to deal with lost opportunities to buy items on eBay and other sources, because U.S. vendors DO get burned and thus refuse foreign sales.

Ebay, however, has come a long way in calculating correct charges for destinations around the world. In the Argentina example, if a bidder created a phony US account to get a better shipping cost, that incident when reported, should have resulted in a favorable result in your dispute.

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