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mdraft

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11-26-2014 11:46 PM

Hi friends,

I’m in the market for a new dovetail saw. I have two from verities but the set is pretty wide on the 14ppi one. Any suggestions without breaking the bank? I would like a saw with very little set to it. Thanks.


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BubbaIBA

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#1 posted 11-27-2014 12:09 AM

If the set is too much, take a small oil or diamond stone and “stone” each side of the tooth line until the set is correct…..A lot cheaper than a new saw, unless you just want a new saw :-). That I can understand as well.

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#2 posted 11-27-2014 12:15 AM

Add one more thing because I’m assuming you do not sharpen you own saws, if you do forgive me. When you stone the tooth line make one pass on each side do a test cut. If the saw saws true and the set is to your liking, stop. If the saw favors one side stone that side one more time or if the set is still too much stone both sides and test cut. repeat as necessary.

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#3 posted 11-27-2014 03:02 AM

If you happen to have access to a machinist vice, you can use it to press the set out. Here’s a video on youtube of Mike Wenzlof doing it. Put one or two sheets of paper on each side. The teeth will cut into the paper and the vice will stop closing at the paper. The thickness of the paper will basically be your set on each side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lKUsWFYbwA

Stoning will work too, just thins the teeth a little. Probably won’t really make a difference to you.

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#4 posted 11-27-2014 04:27 AM

Great advice ^

If you want a new saw contact fellow LJer ErikF, he
does great work at a fair price.

http://lumberjocks.com/messages/new/ErikF

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#5 posted 11-27-2014 05:38 AM

Tim that is a neat trick. I have a saw with too much set and will try it. I don’t have a fancy vise like that but I’ll try it anyway.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#6 posted 11-27-2014 06:36 AM

If you want to try a very inexpensive saw with little set I would suggest a Zona saw? Its like $11. I read about it from Paul Sellers. I switched the blade around to make it into a push saw. Its a really nice little saw. The handle is marginal and someday I may have someone turn me a nice handle.

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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#7 posted 11-28-2014 03:24 AM

Glad you liked it Rick, I’m just passing it along. Let us know if you get it to work for you though. I’m curious on what you plan on trying.

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#8 posted 11-28-2014 03:32 AM

I don’t know as a dovetail saw but I just love my Dozuki ,& enjoy cutting with it.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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#9 posted 11-28-2014 05:27 AM

I’m debating on whether to convert one of my crosscut back saws to a rip saw for joinery or just break down and buy a dovetail saw. Then if I buy one, I have to decide between Western or pull saw. In general I like Western saws better, guess I’m a pushy guy (haha). But so many people are very happy with dozukis for dovetails, even people who normally use western saws.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#10 posted 11-28-2014 06:53 AM

I find the dozukis are for fine small DTs but for larger ones in something like pine the western push saws work better and faster. I have the Vertias from LV but would really like to try a brass splined just to see the difference.

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#11 posted 11-28-2014 04:01 PM

Thanks for all the replies. I just tried the machine vice and paper approach and it worked great! Thanks for the tip.

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#12 posted 11-28-2014 06:58 PM



I find the dozukis are for fine small DTs but for larger ones in something like pine the western push saws work better and faster. I have the Vertias from LV but would really like to try a brass splined just to see the difference.

- rad457

In use there isn’t any. The LV saws are as good as any, when you buy a boutique saw you are mostly buying bling. Having said that I like bling and have a full set of Bad Axe, several LN and Gramercy saws. The biggest difference with a saw like a Bad Axe with a folded back is you can take it apart and repair if needed. The molded back of the LV and milled backs like on the LN you can not and that basically makes that kind of saw a throw away if repairs other than sharpening are needed.

ken

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#13 posted 11-28-2014 08:09 PM

Bad Axe saws are basically tool porn. I have x3 Bad Axe saws. I need help …

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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#14 posted 11-28-2014 09:25 PM



Bad Axe saws are basically tool porn. I have x3 Bad Axe saws. I need help …

- ElChe

Ain’t that the truth…..I have more, I’m one sick puppy.

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#15 posted 11-28-2014 09:32 PM

BTW, even with tool porn saws in my saw till I will use the LV saws almost as often as the others. For folks starting a saw collection to use for woodworking buy a full set of the LV’s first. With the LV you can do anything needed to make furniture and they will do it as well as any other saw. Then if you would like a little eye candy for your till go for what ever saw blows your skirt. One set to work with, one set to look at, it’s win win.

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